You have power build up clicked on. Might want to look at the numbers with that off 
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Haha, I was gonna say from eyeballing the build how on earth is he softcapped to all three positions with that much recharge |
Originally Posted by Kahlan_
You have power build up clicked on. Might want to look at the numbers with that off
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Looks fine. I'd recommend getting some accuracy in benumb and heat loss (especially for tough AV fights). Blizzard is also really nice if you can fit it in, since it does blaster level damage and heat loss can get you up and running immediately (in my opinion if you don't take either ice storm or blizzard you should really just go with /sonic).
Very interesting build. I do agree I'd be more comfortable if you had some accuracy in Heat Loss in particular. Tough targets are going to resist the defense debuff in Sleet, in the case of AV's rather strongly. In turn increasing the opportunity to miss with Benumb and Heat Loss. Which toggles do you plan to have on 24-7? Even with Heat Loss boosting your recovery with the high recharge present in the build you also have the ability to burn thru your end rather rapidly. Slot in Performance Shifter and Efficacy Adaptor (the Endmod/Rech and Acc/Rech from both sets) instead of 4 of the Rech IO's and toggle on Tactics and Heat Loss should have a final to hit chance of 95% as long as you aren't getting debuffed. Hitting with Heat Loss is more important than eliminating the 0.6 seconds downtime using the Endmod sets would incur.
Um, wow. Yeah. You want accuracy in Heat Loss and Benumb, especially since you've not taken Aim. Ragnaroks in Sleet? Hecatombs in Brawl? Really? Like, really really?
High recharge and softcap defense is definitely a very valuable goal, but not at this cost.
You want an Achilles -res proc in Sleet. As Kahlan says, if you're not going to take Blizzard or Ice Storm there isn't much point in going /ice.
I would heavily redo this build if I were you. I'm not trying to be unkind here but you've slotted your key cold powers really badly. +70% acc from bonuses is not enough to make Benumb and Heatloss hit when you really need them to.
Either settle for less recharge or less defense. If you want crazy recharge, (which I totally understand and empathize with), then build for about 33ish defense. Then when you need to you can hit a small purple. Being softcapped all the time is not worth this kind of sacrifice.
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I agree with the previous comments, that you probably should rethink your build. However, the following comment jumped out at me:
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How much accuracy does he need? +70% global accuracy is over 2 SOs worth of accuracy in every power -- Would he really need more?|
Originally Posted by Silas
you've slotted your key cold powers really badly. +70% acc from bonuses is not enough to make Benumb and Heatloss hit when you really need them to.
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Even against +3's, def debuff in sleet would still be at 65% effectiveness (~ -20% def). To hit against +3s:
With Sleet: (1.7) * [ 0.48 + 0.20 ] = 115% (capped at 95%)
Without Sleet: (1.7) * [ 0.48 ] = 82%
Furthermore, he's taken Tactics for an additional 12.5% +tohit:
With Tactics & without Sleet: (1.7) * [ 0.48 + 0.125 ] = 103% (capped at 95%)
Is my math-fu inferior here, or am I missing a factor?
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Silas is probably thinking of the same thing as me: the STF. +4 AVs, one of which has very high defense. Since it appears force has the money for a high end build, might as well build well for the one thing that would challenge such a build |
Originally Posted by Mezzosoprano
I agree with the previous comments, that you probably should rethink your build. However, the following comment jumped out at me:
How much accuracy does he need? +70% global accuracy is over 2 SOs worth of accuracy in every power -- Would he really need more? Even against +3's, def debuff in sleet would still be at 65% effectiveness (~ -20% def). To hit against +3s: With Sleet: (1.7) * [ 0.48 + 0.20 ] = 115% (capped at 95%) Without Sleet: (1.7) * [ 0.48 ] = 82% Furthermore, he's taken Tactics for an additional 12.5% +tohit: With Tactics & without Sleet: (1.7) * [ 0.48 + 0.125 ] = 103% (capped at 95%) Is my math-fu inferior here, or am I missing a factor? |
My cold has 2 lvl 50 accuracy IOs worth of accuracy in benumb and heat loss, as well as a lot of global acc, as well as the kismet unique, and still isn't capped on hit chance against Mako.
Also keep in mind that AVs very highly resist defense debuffs, as well as the purple patch resisting them, meaning even sleet + infrigidate do basically nothing against high level AVs.
It is a good point though, that other than fighting +3 and +4 AVs, he wouldn't have any problems in this regard. So it's a matter of what content will be played.
sorry, i'm losing my mind. This is for the cold/ice defender. mine's a controller.
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Pretty much. While I still wouldn't want to run around with Hecatombs in Brawl and Ragnaroks in Sleet, his tohit chances would be sufficient for almost all content.
For me personally, when I see a build with purples, pvp IOs and 7.5s I assume that the intention is to be more than just adequate.
The accuracy issue aside Force, I'd urge you to reconsider several of your power choices and the levels you took them. I'd take Sleet earlier, (and trust me, an Achilles -res proc in Sleet is goooorgeous), try to fit in Frostworks for MoTFs and other high level content, (for non-accoladed/hp buffed squishies, for tanks not at the hp cap, etc), and to take Ice Storm or Blizzard, if not both.
Ice Storm and Blizzard doing Blaster damage coupled with Defender debuffs is obscene. You're really missing out by skipping them.
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Originally Posted by Silas
For me personally, when I see a build with purples, pvp IOs and 7.5s I assume that the intention is to be more than just adequate.
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Originally Posted by Kahlan_
Silas is probably thinking of the same thing as me: the STF. +4 AVs, one of which has very high defense. Since it appears force has the money for a high end build, might as well build well for the one thing that would challenge such a build
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+4 AVs could be very tough to hit with his slotting:
(1.7) * [ 0.39 + 0.125 - AVDEF] = 88% (if AVDEF = 0)
If Mako's defense is at all significant, I can see that the chance to hit would go downhill fast, and why you'd want more accuracy. Thanks for the insight!
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Makos defense is such that without tohit buffing on the team (Tactics, Fortitude, etc.) if you are ED Accuracy capped, you are well under 50% to hit him. *Before* he hits his Tier 9, which seems to roughly floor you. I took and slotted Tactics on my rad/rad defender specifically for him specifically for the STF, after hearing about teams stalling on him. Rad/Rad debuffing doesn't cut it, -100% Def Debuff turns into around -12% if I recall. |
Originally Posted by Mezzosoprano
If Mako's defense is at all significant, I can see that the chance to hit would go downhill fast, and why you'd want more accuracy. Thanks for the insight!
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Mind you, Lord Recluse himself has +175% Defense before the yellow tower goes down, but of course you don't fight him before the towers go down.
This has to be a joke.
Your power choice is horrible, if you can actually afford half the crap in this build its not worth making because it would play so bad (glad proc alone is 4 bill so good luck with that one) surely you can come up with something better than this piece of crap. I mean you slotted brawl with purples...really...I mean...REALLY?!?
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Actually, this would be what I call an "I play from 3am - 7am and do alot of solo play" build.
That being said, this is a regular content solo build. Not farming, not high-end Task Forces, not Mako.
I already have a team build in-place, this would take place on the 2nd build for Solo Play.
And yes, if I choose to implement it I would have no problem affording it.
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So it's a solo build but you've skipped the two most damaging powers in your secondary? The two most damaging powers available in the secondary that is the sole source of damage because it is, as you have made clear, a solo build?|
Originally Posted by Watchfire
Actually, this would be what I call an "I play from 3am - 7am and do alot of solo play" build.
That being said, this is a regular content solo build. Not farming, not high-end Task Forces, not Mako. I already have a team build in-place, this would take place on the 2nd build for Solo Play. And yes, if I choose to implement it I would have no problem affording it. |
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Correct, +4/+0, I don't plan on herding up huge mobs. ST Dmg. With the incorporation of holds.
Sole source of damage? Try again.
Yes they do have excellent damage capacity, however they do not flow well with the style of play that I run when solo on a defender.
Perhaps not skip-able to you, but skip-able to me for the intention of the play-style.
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Yes, as a solo Defender your secondary is your sole source of damage. Unless of course you want to talk about Hecatomb-slotted Brawl, Dominate (which only does as much base dmg as most tier1s) and the miniscule DoT from Sleet.|
Originally Posted by Watchfire
Correct, +4/+0, I don't plan on herding up huge mobs. ST Dmg. With the incorporation of holds.
Sole source of damage? Try again. Yes they do have excellent damage capacity, however they do not flow well with the style of play that I run when solo on a defender. Perhaps not skip-able to you, but skip-able to me for the intention of the play-style. |
If your intention is to solo +4x0 then I'll second what Kahlan said, you'd be better off with /sonic.
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Ah, well then I miss read your post. I thought you'd said Blizzard/Ice Storm were the sole sources of damage... It must be late and I must be tired..|
Originally Posted by Silas
Yes, as a solo Defender your secondary is your sole source of damage. Unless of course you want to talk about Hecatomb-slotted Brawl, Dominate (which only does as much base dmg as most tier1s) and the miniscule DoT from Sleet.
If your intention is to solo +4x0 then I'll second what Kahlan said, you'd be better off with /sonic. |
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Against +4 normal enemies, you'll have 65% chance to hit with Heat Loss and Benumb.
They aren't permanent anyway due to the animation time (powers do not begin recharging until they have finished animating) so you may as well swap some of those recharges out for accuracies.
doesnt matter if it is a solo build. you could still come up with something better than this. speaking of, since it's a solo build, A) why the hell did you take the ice shields or veng then? and B) why didnt you go into force baster for power build up and total focus to atleast have a useful power to put heca's in. again I say....REALLY?!? if you have the 10 Billion inf to waste on this...just dont.
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I dont understand. No Ice Storm/ Blizzard? This hurts my head.
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