Cold/Ice advise please.


Deacon_NA

 

Posted

Hello everybody,

my first post in our Defender Forum, so apologies if I am asking about the "Bleeding Obvious".

I ran an Emp/Mental manipulation toon to 50 and really wanted to get away from the "Healer" stuff and to try the Buff/DeBuff stuff.

I decided on a Cold/Ice theme and have been using Turbo_ski's excellent guide to Cold Domination.

His sections of that guide "Important Power Combo's" and "Pool Powers - Highly Recommended" highlight the importance of taking Power Buildup to use with Benumb and Infrigidate in a combo.

However my secondary, Ice, only has "Aim" so I cannot get Build Up.

So the question is, should I take Aim because it will take the place/equal of BU, or at least be a similiar substitute power, or should I skip it altogether and take another power pick?

What are the practical differences between Aim and BU?

Thanks for any advise/corrections or even smacks on the head for being stupid

My toon is at lvl 25 now and I am really enjoying it albeit still feeling scary about not having any heal capacity when teaming!

Cheers


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Posted

http://coh.redtomax.com/data/powers/...Power_Build_Up

That is the power referred to in Turbo Ski's guide. It is indeed a great power to use before Benumb or Veng. It's nice to use before Infridge, but with the long-ish timer on PBU, I'd never use it just for Infridge, but use PBU>Sleet>Infridge>Benumb. That ensquishifies the hardest targets in the game.

For my Cold/Ice, I don't have Aim in my level 50 post respec (final) build, but I did for leveling up. It is not the equal of PBU, they do different things, though PBU does buff to-hit.

Here are the stats for Aim, so you can see for yourself the differences between the two powers:

http://coh.redtomax.com/data/powers/....Ice_Blast.Aim

Lastly, do NOT feel scary about not having a heal for teaming. Not to get into a "Who's the better Defender" debate, so I'll simply say a Cold does a LOT to not only provide team safety through shields, knockdown and slows, but enables team killing via resistance debuffs and endurance buffs. I find my Cold/Ice extremely satisfying to play and I'm sure you will too.


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If confronted about no heals in the ice shields, remind the questioner that ice needs refreshing every 4 minutes; empaths may burn out of end far quicker and more frequently than the shields. On a Kahn/Reichsman or Lady Grey TF I find bubblers, icers, thermal shields, and sonic ringers to be invaluable for their 4 minute timer mitigation powers.


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Posted

Hi Guys,
thank you so much for your invaluable responses. Never even considered the Epic pool for Power Buildup, duh

I now understand the rational behind the comments in the guide and can plan my build with some confidence.

As I have levelled this toon I have come to understand (in a very naive manner) the power of the Buff/DeBuff effects on a team and really enjoy keeping my teamates healthy as opposed to getting them healthy.

I am starting to be more confident about my abilities and am getting a lot more "game satisfaction" during my play time.

Thanks again, see you at 50 in PI

Cheers


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