The Problem with that level is not much comes up even though the prices are reasonable.
I've kept my frankenslotting of 2 Entropics and 2, I think Volly Fire, for 14% regen, but this is not optimal at all.
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Level 1: Blind -- Lock-Acc/Hold(A), Lock-Acc/Rchg(3), Lock-Rchg/Hold(11), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(17), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(31), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50) Level 2: Spectral Wounds -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Dev'n-Hold%(43) |
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Level 1: Blind -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(3), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(11), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(11), HO:Perox(15), HO:Nucle(42) Level 2: Spectral Wounds -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(5), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(42) |
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Spectral Wounds: I used decimation for 6,25 recharge bonus Blind: Used Basilik's Gaze for 7,5 recharge bonus |
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Level 1: Spectral Wounds -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(3), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48) Level 2: Blind -- FtnHyp-Sleep(A), FtnHyp-Sleep/Rchg(7), FtnHyp-Acc/Sleep/Rchg(7), FtnHyp-Acc/Rchg(9), FtnHyp-Sleep/EndRdx(9), Hold-I(48) |
respectfully, i dont think you had to bother creating a thread for this Q.
You simply go to WWs, search the ranged damage & hold recipes.
When you see a recipe that enhances more than 1 aspect of your powers, you simply click on it to find price & availability.
Again no offense, but you're asking people to, in essence, search WWs for you so when you log back on you don't have to put an iota of effort.
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The problem with this question is that you don't give enough information. Are you mostly solo or team? What is your playstyle? What other powers do you have available? Are you having endurance problems? Do you spend a lot of time attacking to do damage, such that you need a lot of Recharge? How many slots do you have devoted to each power? How much Influence do you have to spend?|
Originally Posted by Guero
My Ill/Sonic is at 37 now, and it's high time I ditched the generic IOs in favor of something a little more fitting a dude with two attacks. Anyone have a good recommendation for an affordable frankenslotting of Blind & Spectral Wounds during the grind to 50? I don't necessarily care about set bonus', just want a good balance of acc, dam & rech with a little end thrown in.
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There are some sets that can be obtained at lower levels, like the Basilisk's Gaze set, where you can get and use the set now even if you plan to have it in your level 50 build. Do you expect to have any of these sets in your final build?
Blind can be slotted either as an attack or as a hold, depending upon what you want out of it. Although it has an accuracy bonus, you also really, really want it to hit to make sure you get the Containment bonus. And then there are options for some decent bonuses just for parts of sets. If you mostly team, then you may want more control than damage. You could go with Acc/Hold/Rech from several sets, and you could add in the Acc/Hold/EndRdx/Rech from Lockdown, depending upon the price, the number of slots and what you want out of the power. You can add some damage if you want. . . . or you can slot the power entirely for damage, and maybe throw in a little bit of hold. The question is whether you use Blind for its control, or if you only use it as an attack that sets up Containment for Spectral Wounds. And do you have Air Superiority to make an attack chain? If you just use the Blind-SW as a "chain," then you don't need much (or any) hold in Blind. However, if you use a Blind-SW-AirSup-SW chain, you might need a little bit of hold, but mostly damage. Or if you spread Blind around to control lots of foes while teammates take them down, then Blind needs more hold.
Spectral Wounds also has lots of options. For example, 4 Thunderstrikes and 2 Devastations have some nice small bonuses for Recovery, Accuracy and Regen.
There are lots and lots of good options. Just figure out what you want and play around with Mids.
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Yeah, I know. I took a 9-month break & came back last month, loaded up my main who had ~560m in his pocket when I left, and figured I'd be able to siphon funds from that for my Spines/Regen and my Ill/Sonic... I was surprised to find out that slotting just a handful of powers on my Spines/Regen left me destitute... so now I have to be more careful about what I spend on the Ill/Son.|
Originally Posted by Postagulous
The Problem with that level is not much comes up even though the prices are reasonable.
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But anyway... I appreciate your suggestions; I assumed that other people who ran Illusion controllers would have run into the same problem, that being, as an Illusion controller you have two attacks, one with a default recharge of 9s, the other on a 6s timer.
Because of this, you never have endurance issues. But... say you go balls-out and reduce the recharge by half in both attacks. Does endurance become a problem then? Is there a sweet spot on Blind that maximizes the return on Damage & Recharge, wherein neither is pumped to 99.1% enhancement, but moreso in the 80/85 range?
Given that Blind has more set options than SW, maybe there's an approach that makes more sense than laying out 45m for half a set of Decimation and a smattering from Hold & Sleep sets... things like that, I thought would be a good question for the forums. Especially when even middle-of-the-road slotting will run you 50m these days.
In any event, when somebody writes into the boards with a question about AA or Singularity slotting - subjects I'm more familiar with after running Ice & Grav builds for upwards of 5 years - I'm glad my first reaction has never been to call them lazy, because seriously, what kind of response is that? Either you can help or you can't. If you can't, why even chime in?
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Well, I can tell you that my slotting, for my usual playstyle, would be to slot Spectral Wounds the way I suggested above with some decent Recharge after getting good accuracy and capped damage. I would slot Blind with Acc/Hold/Rech from three sets, plus the Lockdown Acc/Hold/End/Rech, and then put a couple of common Damage IOs in the last two slots.|
Originally Posted by Guero
Yeah, I know. I took a 9-month break & came back last month, loaded up my main who had ~560m in his pocket when I left, and figured I'd be able to siphon funds from that for my Spines/Regen and my Ill/Sonic... I was surprised to find out that slotting just a handful of powers on my Spines/Regen left me destitute... so now I have to be more careful about what I spend on the Ill/Son.
But anyway... I appreciate your suggestions; I assumed that other people who ran Illusion controllers would have run into the same problem, that being, as an Illusion controller you have two attacks, one with a default recharge of 9s, the other on a 6s timer. Because of this, you never have endurance issues. But... say you go balls-out and reduce the recharge by half in both attacks. Does endurance become a problem then? Is there a sweet spot on Blind that maximizes the return on Damage & Recharge, wherein neither is pumped to 99.1% enhancement, but moreso in the 80/85 range? Given that Blind has more set options than SW, maybe there's an approach that makes more sense than laying out 45m for half a set of Decimation and a smattering from Hold & Sleep sets... things like that, I thought would be a good question for the forums. Especially when even middle-of-the-road slotting will run you 50m these days. In any event, when somebody writes into the boards with a question about AA or Singularity slotting - subjects I'm more familiar with after running Ice & Grav builds for upwards of 5 years - I'm glad my first reaction has never been to call them lazy, because seriously, what kind of response is that? Either you can help or you can't. If you can't, why even chime in? |
On some Illusion controllers, I have Air Sup to fill in after Blind-SW. If I know I have to run into melee, I will often use Deceive on the target first. On others, I have to use ranged Vet attacks to fill in (since I now have two). Once I get to the APP sets, then I can get a nice attack chain of Blind-SW-APP Blast-SW.
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Sometimes it isnt easy these days to find recipes at exactly level X, unless X is the top range that recipe goes to (30, 50, etc). So, you might not be able to get exactly these numbers. However, here are some frankenslotting options you could do:
BLIND (94% Accuracy, 94% Hold Duration, 90% Recharge, 55% End Reduction):
Ruin Acc/End/Rech (40)
Essence of Curare Acc/Hold/Rech (40)
Ghost Widow's Embrace Acc/Hold/Rech (40)
Lockdown Acc/Hold (40)
Lockdown End/Rech/Hold (40)
Lockdown Acc/End/Rech/Hold (40)
notes: damage and hold bonus
SPECTRAL WOUNDS (76% Accuracy, 95% Damage, 95% Recharge, 57% Endurance Red):
Ruin Acc/End/Rech (40)
Ruin Acc/Dam/Rech (40)
Thunderstrike Dam/Rech (40)
Thunderstrike Acc/Dam/Rech (40)
Thunderstrike Acc/Dam/End (40)
Thunderstrike Dam/End/Rech (40)
notes: recovery and accuracy bonuses
If you want a more damage-oriented BLIND that is also a decent hold:
(Acc 55%, Dam 90%, End 36%, Rech 36%, Hold 76%):
Devastation Acc/Dam/End/Rech (40)
Thunderstrike Acc/Dam/Rech (40)
Thunderstrike Acc/Dam/End (40)
Damage Generic IO (40)
Hold Generic IO (40)
Hold Generic IO (40)
None of the numbers are super impressive, but its the equivalent of having (for your level) 1.5 accuracy IOs, a recharge IO, an end reducer IO, more or less full damage, and 2 Hold IOs. Not bad for soloing where you need both control and damage.
Your only problems are availability and budget. With AE, there are less recipes around, even after all the AE changes. I have more problems than I used to. Still, put out some bids, go enjoy real life, and come back to it in a few days, and you'll likely have all your bids in.
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Funny you mention that; the whole reason I'm looking to get 'more better' at Blind/SW is because the Vet attacks are so sporadic for me. I am going to give some serious thought to adding Air Sup... I've never taken it before but Ill Sonic is a loose enough build that Air Sup would fit right in, and may help me drag Phantasm into melee range, so he can get some benefit Disruption Field. |
Originally Posted by Local_Man
On some Illusion controllers, I have Air Sup to fill in after Blind-SW. If I know I have to run into melee, I will often use Deceive on the target first. On others, I have to use ranged Vet attacks to fill in (since I now have two). Once I get to the APP sets, then I can get a nice attack chain of Blind-SW-APP Blast-SW.
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Hrm, Air Sup is looking pretty good now that I check it out on City of Data... instantly adds 130 + 30 contained, with Sonic's -Res to cancel out the fact that Smashing is so heavily resisted.
Interesting...
I slot my Blind with 4 Thunderstrikes and 2 Lockdowns (including the +2 mag hold chance) focusing on accuracy and damage.
For my build (and I think most trollers), Hold Duration is not nearly as important as the actual HOLD. They're held, and then it's usually SW->Seismic Smash (Hold again if not defeated) and repeat until dead. As you can see, even if the duration was 4-5 seconds they'd never break hold before dying. +2 Mag just increases the chance I'll hold boss in one shot.
In my build, Decimation was mandatory for the +Recharge; slotted 5 Decimations (excepting the buildup) and added the best multi-Devastation to round out the set.
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Air Sup is great on most controllers and a lot of scrappers and tanks. It is one of the main reasons that Fly is my most often used travel power, not because I want Fly, but because I want Air Sup. I was just on a baby Ill/Rad I have on a rarely played server . . . Blind-SW-Air Sup is very effective to help kill the foes faster than Blind-SW alone. (And if you look at my Ill/Rad guide, it explains why it is important to kill fast to take advantage of spectral damage.) Plus, if Blind misses or is recharging, Air Sup's knockdown acts as a control power to keep the foe occupied long enough for Blind to recharge. And it can knock down flyers, too.|
Originally Posted by Guero
Funny you mention that; the whole reason I'm looking to get 'more better' at Blind/SW is because the Vet attacks are so sporadic for me. I am going to give some serious thought to adding Air Sup... I've never taken it before but Ill Sonic is a loose enough build that Air Sup would fit right in, and may help me drag Phantasm into melee range, so he can get some benefit Disruption Field.
Hrm, Air Sup is looking pretty good now that I check it out on City of Data... instantly adds 130 + 30 contained, with Sonic's -Res to cancel out the fact that Smashing is so heavily resisted. Interesting... |
I generally take Air Superiority on most controllers that I expect to solo to some degree or another. About the only time I hav a flyer who takes Hover instead of Air Sup is for a Blaster who stays at range.
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That looks like exactly what I was after... problem with set IOs is you can easily get wrapped up in thinking you need 6 of them - any of them - rather than a little from here & some generics to round it out.|
Originally Posted by UnicyclePeon
SPECTRAL WOUNDS (76% Accuracy, 95% Damage, 95% Recharge, 57% Endurance Red):
Ruin Acc/End/Rech (40) Ruin Acc/Dam/Rech (40) Thunderstrike Dam/Rech (40) Thunderstrike Acc/Dam/Rech (40) Thunderstrike Acc/Dam/End (40) Thunderstrike Dam/End/Rech (40) notes: recovery and accuracy bonuses If you want a more damage-oriented BLIND that is also a decent hold: (Acc 55%, Dam 90%, End 36%, Rech 36%, Hold 76%): Devastation Acc/Dam/End/Rech (40) Thunderstrike Acc/Dam/Rech (40) Thunderstrike Acc/Dam/End (40) Damage Generic IO (40) Hold Generic IO (40) Hold Generic IO (40) Lewis |
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Originally Posted by Local_Man
Blind-SW-Air Sup is very effective to help kill the foes faster than Blind-SW alone. (And if you look at my Ill/Rad guide, it explains why it is important to kill fast to take advantage of spectral damage.)
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My Ill/Sonic is at 37 now, and it's high time I ditched the generic IOs in favor of something a little more fitting a dude with two attacks. Anyone have a good recommendation for an affordable frankenslotting of Blind & Spectral Wounds during the grind to 50? I don't necessarily care about set bonus', just want a good balance of acc, dam & rech with a little end thrown in.