Change to inherent (shared Buffs/reverse debuffs)


Adeon Hawkwood

 

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Originally Posted by Garent View Post
REQUIRED huh? The last pvp tournament I participated in was a 3v3 and our team was a blaster, controller, and me as the defender. None of us had phase shift or hibernate, blaster had both SJ and SS, controller and I only had SS. We won every match, and had a total of three deaths.
i dare you to 3v3 with a team like that on freedom.
you'd get shredded by any relatively competent 3v3 team.
that is a commentary on the skill of the people you were fighting, not your build.

edit: even better, join a kickball on a toon with no phase.


 

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No phase and no acro. Man that would hurt alot. Hell even go do a random 2v2 on freedom and get ready to get your eyes opened.



What kinda of team configurations were you beating out of curiosity? mostly melee toons or something? I honestly can't imagine a line up like that working in a legit 3v3 match unless it was all melee toons or afkers.


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While the idea as presented is arguably better than what we've got--as, indeed, most ideas would be--I can't say that I'm thrilled with it. As others have pointed out, the sheer variety of primaries makes it very uneven. It leaves Rad out in the cold, for example. Dark wouldn't get much joy out of it, either. Force Fields would end up uselessly renewing bubbles before their duration ends to keep the buff. The idea of making the single-target powers function (and function differently) without a target is probably impossible, and certainly inelegant.

As is my usual practice in these threads, I am instead going to toss a random idea into the pot just to watch it bubble:

The new Vigilance has a bar similar to Fury or Domination; it builds up whenever the defender activates any single-target power (primary, secondary, or pool). The represents the defender vigilantly watching friend and foe alike, and determining the best response on the fly. The defender radiates an aura similar to Supremacy or a Leadership aura, which provides an assortment of buffs to the defender and all allies--thematically appropriate buffs for it would be ToHit, Defense, and Perception. The magnitude of the buffs would be based on the state of the Vigilance bar.

This would benefit defenders on or off teams, be readily usable regardless of primary, and encourage defenders to take highly active roles on teams (whether actively buffing teammates or attacking enemies).


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You know, I usually have something of a gag reflex to most suggestions I see for Vigilance replacements, but that one sounds rather cool. I haven't given much brainpower to thinking about it, so maybe it wouldn't be so good in practice, but with a nice assortment of buffs it could be rather well-rounded.

It would be a wild pain for the devs to set up and maintain, but different powers could even trigger different specific buffs. This could help the buff granted was actually useful considering the Defender's powersets - a common complaint about the current Vigilance and many suggestions for replacing it.


Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
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Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

 

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Originally Posted by ConFlict View Post
What kinda of team configurations were you beating out of curiosity? mostly melee toons or something? I honestly can't imagine a line up like that working in a legit 3v3 match unless it was all melee toons or afkers.
Final two matches were against a brute, corruptor, blaster team and a controller, scrapper, blaster team. The brute, corruptor, blaster team was the other undefeated team and we didn't take any deaths against them or the team after them.

You can say the other teams were stupid if you want to, but that's not the only pvp tournament I've won on my server with my defender. I've been on a winning 2v2 and 5v5 team as well.


 

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What server?


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Pinnacle.

And yes, one of my teammates drank before every match.


 

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if EU players won tournies with elec/elec blasters, i don't even wanna know in what era pinnacle got stuck.


 

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oh yeah, free transfers, come to freedom so i can give you a good beating.


 

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oh yeah, free transfers, come to freedom so i can give you a good beating.

This. Barrier if he doesn't I would transfer over there for a day or two for the lulz of some 2v2 action.


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Lol, if you guys really want to put me in my place that badly go for it.


 

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Lol, if you guys really want to put me in my place that badly go for it.
when will you be online?
connie and i are gonna transfer something fun for a day of 2v2ing.


 

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What you're serious? I thought you were just trolling.

If you really do it, my usual teammates haven't played recently, so you may have to settle for just me or I'll have to pull someone random from my globals or from arena chat.