It's interesting to me because I can usually tell if somebody hasn't build a Kheldian before.
The first impulse of most new Khelds is to make everything even so you get about equal slotting in all powers.
I know how people here hate using the term "wrong" when talking Kheldians but I think your going to be best served by finding out what powers you do or do not use alot and slotting the ones you do heavily while letting the ones you seldom or don't use sit on 1 or 2 slots.
Your only going to find out what you do use by experience and play.
At this time I have no advice to offer that would be useful to you. Sorry.
If you PL'd to 50 just to get an "epic" thinking you'd be �ber, you're going to be sorely disappointed with the HEATs, because the VEATs were designed so that anyone with one good finger and a braincell can rock the toggles.
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At this time I have no advice to offer that would be useful to you. Sorry.
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About the toon, let me remind you that I haven't created the character yet and thus have an idea of using alot of my powers rather even; thus, if I can understand you right Obsidian, then your advice to me right now will be to try playing with the PB before I build it up, right?
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I wouldn't even concider making a build until the mid to late 20's when you have a more accurate view of what your play style will be.
That said, heavily slotting your high damage and or fast recharging attacks is never a bad plan, and since your going human predominantly I would also heavily slot the heals and shields.
If you PL'd to 50 just to get an "epic" thinking you'd be �ber, you're going to be sorely disappointed with the HEATs, because the VEATs were designed so that anyone with one good finger and a braincell can rock the toggles.
Hm. It looks to me like you're trying to make primarily a blaster-type human form. You've taken almost all the ranged attacks, and it looks like you're relying on having a defender with you to handle the healing through most of your leveling up.
What you will quickly find, in play, is that Human Form Peacebringers are not blasters. They're blappers.
The blasts are anemic in comparison to the melee attacks, and even the melee attacks are, overall, ho hum. They are where the strength of the human form damage is, though, so you'll find yourself dancing in and out of melee a lot, or slugging it out with whatever boss mob you're in.
That said, you'll need your heals much earlier, and the PBAOE stun is vital for mitigating damage. Photon Seekers are an excellent, crashless mini-nuke if you launch them while you're in the middle of a group.
Take Quantum Shield as soon as you can, save Thermal Shield for later.
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Hm. It looks to me like you're trying to make primarily a blaster-type human form. You've taken almost all the ranged attacks, and it looks like you're relying on having a defender with you to handle the healing through most of your leveling up.
What you will quickly find, in play, is that Human Form Peacebringers are not blasters. They're blappers. The blasts are anemic in comparison to the melee attacks, and even the melee attacks are, overall, ho hum. They are where the strength of the human form damage is, though, so you'll find yourself dancing in and out of melee a lot, or slugging it out with whatever boss mob you're in. That said, you'll need your heals much earlier, and the PBAOE stun is vital for mitigating damage. Photon Seekers are an excellent, crashless mini-nuke if you launch them while you're in the middle of a group. Take Quantum Shield as soon as you can, save Thermal Shield for later. |
Second, I wanted this toon to be an all-around powerhouse (if that definition is understood), meaning she should be able to manage any position; this said, I would say that I have certainly laid focus on the melee components of the build: Radiant Strike, Incandescent Strike, Solar Flare (And yes, I consider this a melee component) and Dawn Strike (I like having a panic button/play-with-muscles power
), the important note was that I didn't make it total and asked for help, naturally unaware that I had no idea of the complexity of such a playstyle. Furthermore about the power choices, I am not that used to many of the power pools, if you think of Medicine for healing purposes...Third: what do you mean by "ho hum"? If you don't remember, try looking in the quote and see if you recollect.
Fourth (possibly conclusion): Now that I have begun playing the PB, in a tri-form build, I do realize that it is actually tough to find your playstyle... She's at lvl 7/8 now, and I think I'll make her lvl 10 build all-human, so I can try the human powers with a faster approach.
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Got a question about some power choices, since the thread is technically called build help. I have gotten more insight in the human Peacebringer, and now I can't decide which ranged AoE I should take. The choise is ofc between Proton Scatter and Luminous detonation. I think Proton Scatter looks the coolest, but Luminous detonation do have more "useful" side-effects, so to say.
1. My average observation of TAoE (Targeted AoE) is that it hits more enemies than CAoE (Cone AoE). This will talk for luminous detonation over proton scatter, both because Luminous Detonation has longer range than Proton Scatter, and because it hits more enemies, as said above.
2. Luminous Detonation has a mitigation effect, KB; Proton Scatter has none other than Def debuff.
The reasons I want Proton Scatter over Luminous Detonation is that I think Proton Scatter looks cooler and because it does more damage (although the damage isn't the reason to my wondering).
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I love my all human PB he was my quickest toon to 50 and i also focused on his damage being number one but i love me some energy and smashing shields with the two heals. I hope you have alot of fun with ur PB and congrats on making 50
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Got a question about some power choices, since the thread is technically called build help. I have gotten more insight in the human Peacebringer, and now I can't decide which ranged AoE I should take. The choise is ofc between Proton Scatter and Luminous detonation. I think Proton Scatter looks the coolest, but Luminous detonation do have more "useful" side-effects, so to say.
1. My average observation of TAoE (Targeted AoE) is that it hits more enemies than CAoE (Cone AoE). This will talk for luminous detonation over proton scatter, both because Luminous Detonation has longer range than Proton Scatter, and because it hits more enemies, as said above. 2. Luminous Detonation has a mitigation effect, KB; Proton Scatter has none other than Def debuff. The reasons I want Proton Scatter over Luminous Detonation is that I think Proton Scatter looks cooler and because it does more damage (although the damage isn't the reason to my wondering). |
As for my comments about melee damage being "ho hum", it's in comparison. The ranged damage scalar for Human form peacebringers is .8, the melee damage scalar is .85.
For the Nova form, the damage scalar is 1.2. For the Dwarf form, the damage scalar is 1.0. So you can see that the human form, being a generalist, suffers in comparison.
Melee attacks are, in general, more powerful as well. This means that at some point you will find yourself blasting away with your ranged attacks simply because you have nothing else to do as you wait for your melee attacks to recharge.
Having finally decided to give PBs a REAL chance myself the last month or so, I'd say Starcloud nailed it dead on. Mine is 41 now and I love her. It helps that I like the whole blapper concept and have built a couple of pretty decent blasters that way.
Shields, (and yes, grab the thermal shield last of the three), the two self heals and the PBAOE stun are all pretty much vital though, even more so when you're soloing.
That's the interesting thing for me with a Kheld also; the difference in power in a group vs solo. I'd recommend getting familiar with soloing and all sizes of teams so you get used to the variation there. On an 8 man team that sticks close together, you'll feel like a god. Soloing feels pretty weak by comparison. Not Defender level DPS, but...
Another life saver is getting a KB protection proc. I played hell with void hunters and quantum gunners until I did. All of the sudden I could handle the damage (if shielded) long enough to wipe the floor with most of them.
Now if I could figure out a way to handle the never ending stuns from some mobs... *sigh*
OK yeah, I'm covering play tactics instead of build, but Starcraft did a good job there anyway. Given my moderate level of experience with Khelds, I'll shut up now and let the serious veterans add their two cents.
Hello all.
I was so lucky as to get my main hero to lvl 50 today (Thank you all for your kind congratulations)! Now, with the kheldians open, I have of course thought about some background and build outing for my PB, who is gonna be an all-human build and tri-form build (this will be done later). I have had some trouble building it, so please give me some help.
Thank you
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