Kheldian Questions


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Howdy Kheldian Forum users:

A couple of quick observations and questions regarding Peacebringers:

I am running one all-Human Build and an alternate Tri-form Build (spec'd to maximize the Nova and Dwarf forms for Positron TF's).

1. All-Human build appears to need Hasten and Stamina as many of the powers are on long timers. Do you find this to be the case?

2. My human PB is running single target attack chain with much success, I haven't dipped into the AOE's as I'm concerned the damage would be a bit low.

3. My Tri-form has Grant Invis and Invisibility and I usually hits Hasten, Essensce Boost, Build-up and then shift to Nova for AOE and then to Dwarf to taunt in the survivors for the Stomp. It has been working well. But when I'm not TFing I can't cast Photon Seekers while Invis, is this true or a bug?

4. Regarding set IO bonus', if I slot a Nova power will the set bonus' apply to both the Human and Dwarf form? Will the Decimation grant global recharge or just when I'm in Nova form for example? I currently have him slotted with common IO's in both builds and I just hit 32 which is usually when I start adding Sets. (Editorial Note: "Perfect IO, 2 Billion Inf, Purpled-up" builds while neat to look at are less interesting to me compared to realistic effective builds. Sorry to rant, pet peeve of mine).

5. I've saved up 400 merits while running Sunstorm and Posi and I was wondering what pieces you consider must have for Peacebringers.

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6. It seems that endurance use for the Dwarf from is much harsher than Nova form. If I slot an end redux in the Dwarf power will that help? Redux in each attack? Both?

7. I currently have just Fly in Nova form. Does it need more?

That's all for now, if you have any advice it would be appreciated.


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1. All-Human build appears to need Hasten and Stamina as many of the powers are on long timers. Do you find this to be the case?
I'd agree although I've never ran a Human-only PB. It just sounds like something you'd need to do because Hasten alone speeds up your endurance consumption simply by allowing you to use your powers more often. There comes a point where even slotting for +EndRdx doesn't help much if you're always using your powers, so Stamina becomes required.

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2. My human PB is running single target attack chain with much success, I haven't dipped into the AOE's as I'm concerned the damage would be a bit low.
Most minions and lieutenants should perish from an IStrike+RStrike punch combo so I see no problem there.

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3. My Tri-form has Grant Invis and Invisibility and I usually hits Hasten, Essensce Boost, Build-up and then shift to Nova for AOE and then to Dwarf to taunt in the survivors for the Stomp. It has been working well. But when I'm not TFing I can't cast Photon Seekers while Invis, is this true or a bug?
Sounds like a bug to me, although I'm running Stealth, not full Invis.

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4. Regarding set IO bonus', if I slot a Nova power will the set bonus' apply to both the Human and Dwarf form?
Absolutely.

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5. I've saved up 400 merits while running Sunstorm and Posi and I was wondering what pieces you consider must have for Peacebringers.
Whichever work for you. I mostly went with Healing sets for my 3 heal powers and the general direction of my build was to supply +Recharge, but on a very cheap budget.


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Hey Gang:

Addded to the original message regarding some slotting issues and such.
Wondering how you all slot the forms for the Tri-form build, Gold Standard PB has Fly in Nova and 3 Dam Resist in Dwarf but I'm finding the Dwarf farm to be brutal on the Blue Bar.

Thanks.


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If your blue bar is taking a hit in dwarf i would suggest adding a performance shifter chance for endurance proc into dwarf form.


If you PL'd to 50 just to get an "epic" thinking you'd be �ber, you're going to be sorely disappointed with the HEATs, because the VEATs were designed so that anyone with one good finger and a braincell can rock the toggles.

 

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3 Dam Resist in Dwarf but I'm finding the Dwarf farm to be brutal on the Blue Bar.
I usually 6-slot my Dwarf form with a mix of +Res;+EndMod;+EndRdx and that's on top of slotting +EndRdx in Dwarf powers.


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I usually 6-slot my Dwarf form with a mix of +Res;+EndMod;+EndRdx and that's on top of slotting +EndRdx in Dwarf powers.
The End Reductions will only lower the cost of the Dwarf toggle itself and my understanding of the End Mod was that it provided a very poor return ( I have forgotten the exact amount) for the slots invested.


If you PL'd to 50 just to get an "epic" thinking you'd be �ber, you're going to be sorely disappointed with the HEATs, because the VEATs were designed so that anyone with one good finger and a braincell can rock the toggles.

 

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The End Reductions will only lower the cost of the Dwarf toggle itself and my understanding of the End Mod was that it provided a very poor return ( I have forgotten the exact amount) for the slots invested.
Naturally, that was the case when I was using SO enhancements. Using IO's to frankenslot my White Dwarf helps it stay more effective, allowing me to heal and AoE as often as I require. I haven't run the math on this, so I don't know exactly how much +Chance for Endurance can help, but essentially since I use White Dwarf for tanking, the damage output I have out of it is less important to me than the ability to heal and AoE fast and often without losing endurance.

The best thing to do, is check for yourself which slotting fits your usage of Dwarf.


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I know some of this has already been answered but I might as well start from the beginning to save me any real thinking:

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1. All-Human build appears to need Hasten and Stamina as many of the powers are on long timers. Do you find this to be the case?
Yes I find this is the case, Hasten really helps PB's because I find they have gaps in the attack chains without it, and any build with good powers on long timers will benefit hugely. In fact you would struggle to find a build where Hasten won't help (Though there are some).
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2. My human PB is running single target attack chain with much success, I haven't dipped into the AOE's as I'm concerned the damage would be a bit low.
AoE damage is king in CoX. I can't remember specifics of PB AoE's (Apart from Solar Flare being great but self defeating because the KB means you cannot spam it like a footstomping brute), but if an AoE does 50 damage and a single target attack does 100 you only need to hit 2 mobs to have broken even on damage. I would see what role you want in teams and aim for that. If you want to kill bosses etc then stick to single target only.
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3. My Tri-form has Grant Invis and Invisibility and I usually hits Hasten, Essensce Boost, Build-up and then shift to Nova for AOE and then to Dwarf to taunt in the survivors for the Stomp. It has been working well. But when I'm not TFing I can't cast Photon Seekers while Invis, is this true or a bug?
I haven't tested it but I would think it is correct. Invisibility gives you 'only effecting self' so you can't cast any damage powers.
Personally I would take Stealth rather than Invisibility, and I would get a +stealth IO (Or SuperSpeed) which when added to Stealth will give you the same invisibility effect as Invisibility, but without the drawbacks.
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4. Regarding set IO bonus', if I slot a Nova power will the set bonus' apply to both the Human and Dwarf form? Will the Decimation grant global recharge or just when I'm in Nova form for example? I currently have him slotted with common IO's in both builds and I just hit 32 which is usually when I start adding Sets. (Editorial Note: "Perfect IO, 2 Billion Inf, Purpled-up" builds while neat to look at are less interesting to me compared to realistic effective builds. Sorry to rant, pet peeve of mine).
If you want a build I can have a look but I always start with a purple build then drop down to meet a budget, so saying how much inf you have to invest is very useful.
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5. I've saved up 400 merits while running Sunstorm and Posi and I was wondering what pieces you consider must have for Peacebringers.
Something to protect you from KB (Steadfast protection goes nicely in the level 1 autopower). LoTG +7.5% global recharge is also useful, though expensive.
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6. It seems that endurance use for the Dwarf from is much harsher than Nova form. If I slot an end redux in the Dwarf power will that help? Redux in each attack? Both?
Dwarf is more end heavy if you want to run a proper attack chain. Slotting endrdx in the attacks is MUCH more useful than anything in the forms. That said I would have a Performance Shifter: Chance for +end in the form, and at least 1 endrdx in each attack/heal.
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7. I currently have just Fly in Nova form. Does it need more?
I have a fly/endrdx hami-o in mine, I would choose between a +fly and a Performance Shifter: Chance for +end, depending on your need. I wouldn't slot anything else.


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