Spines/Nin Help


Blitzwulf

 

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Looking for a build to exemplar with, do some Zone PvP, etc. I run a Mac so I can't play in Mids, came up with this using Suckerpunch's builder, help, greatly appreciated. Using Ninjarun and raptor pack for travel currently, but open to changing that. Just wanted to see if it was doable. Trying to be as cheap as I can because it is a second build, not primary, so no PvP or purple sets. Just something to goof off with.

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Name: N/A
Level: 50
Archetype: Stalker
Primary: Spines
Secondary: Ninjitsu
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01 => Hide ==> 1xKarma-KB, 3xLuckofGambler
01 => Barb Swipe ==> 6xTouchofDeath
02 => Ninja Reflexes ==> 5xRed Fortune
04 => Danger Sense ==> 3xLuckof Gambler
06 => Assassin's Impaler ==> 6xTouchofDeath
08 => Build Up ==> +Percp, 2xAdjusted Targetting
10 => Hasten ==> 2xRechargeIO
12 => Placate ==> Recharge/Acc IOs
14 => Swift ==> ??
16 => Kuji-In Rin ==> 2xRechargeIO
18 => Impale ==> 5xCrushingImpact, 1xProc
20 => Kuji-In Sha ==> 5xDoctoredWounds
22 => Health ==> Miracle/Numina
24 => Stamina ==> 2xPerfShift+End/EndMod, 1xEndModIO
26 => Ripper ==> 6xObliteration
28 => Caltrops ==> 1xRech, 1xDmg
30 => Stealth ==> 3xLuck of Gambler
32 => Throw Spines ==> 5xPositron'sBlast
35 => Blinding Powder ==>4xSiphonInsight
38 => Kuji-In Retsu ==> 3xLuck of Gambler
41 => Spirit Shark ==> 6xThunderstrike
44 => Spirit Shark Jaws ==> 5xBasilisk
47 => Summon Guardian ==> 6xExpedient Reinforcements
49 => Smoke Flash ==> 3x??


"Hmm, I guess I'm not as omniscient as I thought" -Gavin Runeblade.
I can be found, outside of paragon city here.
Thank you everyone at Paragon and on Virtue. When the lights go out in November, you'll find me on Razor Bunny.

 

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Here is a build I used for my spine/nin stalker

I use my stalker more so for PvP.. and this build costed roughly 650mil..

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.601
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Level 50 Magic Stalker
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Ninjitsu
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Leviathan Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Lunge -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(25), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(27), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 1: Hide -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(3), DefBuff-I(3)
Level 2: Ninja Reflexes -- S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(A), S'dpty-Def/Rchg(5), S'dpty-Def(5), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(7), S'dpty-EndRdx(7)
Level 4: Danger Sense -- S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(A), S'dpty-Def/Rchg(9), S'dpty-Def(9), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(11), S'dpty-EndRdx(11)
Level 6: Assassin's Impaler -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(31), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(33), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33)
Level 8: Build Up -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(34), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(34), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(42), AdjTgt-Rchg(43)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(13), Zephyr-ResKB(13), LkGmblr-Rchg+(50)
Level 12: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(17), RechRdx-I(19)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(15), Zephyr-ResKB(15)
Level 16: Kuji-In Rin -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(17), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 18: Impale -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(36), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(36)
Level 20: Kuji-In Sha -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/Rchg(21), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Mrcl-Heal(23), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(23), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 22: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 24: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(50)
Level 26: Ripper -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(37), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40)
Level 28: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(A), P'Shift-EndMod(29), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(29)
Level 30: Stealth -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(31), DefBuff-I(31)
Level 32: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 35: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(43), RctvArm-ResDam(43), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46), RctvArm-EndRdx(46), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(48)
Level 38: Weave -- S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(A), S'dpty-Def/Rchg(39), S'dpty-EndRdx(39), S'dpty-Def(39), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 41: Kuji-In Retsu -- RedFtn-Def(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(42), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(42), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 44: Spirit Shark -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(45), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Hibernate -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 49: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Assassination
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Set Bonus Totals:

  • 12.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
  • 12.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
  • 12.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
  • 12.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
  • 12.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
  • 12.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
  • 12.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
  • 12.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
  • 4.25% Defense(Smashing)
  • 4.25% Defense(Lethal)
  • 8.63% Defense(Fire)
  • 8.63% Defense(Cold)
  • 9.88% Defense(Energy)
  • 9.88% Defense(Negative)
  • 3% Defense(Psionic)
  • 3.63% Defense(Melee)
  • 11.1% Defense(Ranged)
  • 14.3% Defense(AoE)
  • 2.25% Max End
  • 23.8% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 34% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 9% FlySpeed
  • 144.6 HP (12%) HitPoints
  • 9% JumpHeight
  • 9% JumpSpeed
  • Knockback (Mag -8)
  • Knockup (Mag -8)
  • MezResist(Held) 6.05%
  • MezResist(Immobilize) 12.1%
  • MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
  • 4.5% (0.08 End/sec) Recovery
  • 24% (1.21 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 1.26% Resistance(Fire)
  • 1.26% Resistance(Cold)
  • 1.26% Resistance(Energy)
  • 1.26% Resistance(Negative)
  • 9% RunSpeed


 

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smoke flash is a nice power to play with, but once you get some decent defenses you'll find it's entirely a waste since placate and caltrops/powder handles all the aggro problems you'll have that damage doesn't fix.

[edit: i would probably say go with a good pool power instead, maybe assault from leadership (or maneuvers if you need the defense), or hasten, or air superiority if you need the knock.]


"Scrappers don't want the bit of dignity that Brutes left them taken away by (lol)Stalkers." -Delta_Strider, on Stalker buffs.

Current Project: Hard Goodbye, StJ/Nin
Retired: Blitzwulf, Claws/Nin (50); Perdition's Blade, Night Widow (50)

 

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Crindon, what level(s) do you PvP at with that build? Out of curiosity, how do you find your performance without Haste? And what levels are your sets?

I think I could put most of it together. Looks interesting at least.

Blitzwulf, I wasn't particularly attached to smokeflash, as shown by it being the last power on the shelf.


"Hmm, I guess I'm not as omniscient as I thought" -Gavin Runeblade.
I can be found, outside of paragon city here.
Thank you everyone at Paragon and on Virtue. When the lights go out in November, you'll find me on Razor Bunny.

 

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yeah, smokeflash is the main thing that jumped out at me as a waste of a power pick. i haven't tried mako's powers yet, but i know the other patron pets are pretty much a waste of time (although they do hold good sets if that is what you were after. i just figure it's better to slot a useful power hehe).

also i would advise putting a damage proc into caltrops before you actually slot damage enchancers in it. if you have the cash to load up the 'trops with procs it can get quite nasty with some good recharge as well for peppering entire areas.

another thing to keep in mind, if you're like me and actively use caltrops and blinding powder, then with those and placate you really don't need to worry about building for a lot of defense bonuses. but again, depends on what you want to do. good luck!


"Scrappers don't want the bit of dignity that Brutes left them taken away by (lol)Stalkers." -Delta_Strider, on Stalker buffs.

Current Project: Hard Goodbye, StJ/Nin
Retired: Blitzwulf, Claws/Nin (50); Perdition's Blade, Night Widow (50)

 

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I've tried the pets on my dark/dark stalker and what I found is that while they're not great, they really help on those times when you have to be scrappery and can't stealth (like kidnaps). They pull aggro off you so you can get more AS's in with your stealth all buggered. Damage is not much, but they are a lot more resiliant than I expected. And, they do give pretty decent set bonuses relatively cheap.

I was looking to proc up caltrops. It holds so many good ones. =) My current build doesn't use it, but I do get quite a lot of use out of blinding powder. My need to slot blinding powder and desire to test caltrops is really what's driving this respec.


"Hmm, I guess I'm not as omniscient as I thought" -Gavin Runeblade.
I can be found, outside of paragon city here.
Thank you everyone at Paragon and on Virtue. When the lights go out in November, you'll find me on Razor Bunny.

 

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Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade View Post
Crindon, what level(s) do you PvP at with that build? Out of curiosity, how do you find your performance without Haste? And what levels are your sets?

I think I could put most of it together. Looks interesting at least.

Blitzwulf, I wasn't particularly attached to smokeflash, as shown by it being the last power on the shelf.
Sorry for the delayed reply..

But I PvP with this build at lvl 50..

Not having Hasten does suck, but I couldnt really fit it in.. =/ But I do pretty good..

As for my lvl of my sets They are around lvl 50.. some dabble down to lvl 40..

Here are the numbers for defense

PvE Defense Numbers:
--Melee 54.92%
--Ranged 53.42%
--AoE 107.94%

PvP Defense Numbers
-- Melee 32.73%
-- Ranged 36.25%
-- AoE 51.16%

EDIT:I figured I would add in the numbers for defense..


 

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Thanks!


"Hmm, I guess I'm not as omniscient as I thought" -Gavin Runeblade.
I can be found, outside of paragon city here.
Thank you everyone at Paragon and on Virtue. When the lights go out in November, you'll find me on Razor Bunny.