Looking for some opinions...


Aett_Thorn

 

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As I've posted before, I've been putting together a team of homage characters based on Marvel heroes. They're not copies, but they do hearken back to the Marvel characters. Most of them are pretty decent, and have the "feel" of the Marvel characters. The one I'm having trouble with is my Thor homage.

Not wanting to just use Thor (since he's mythological, as long as I reference the original and not the Marvel character, there's no IP issues), I originally made a character based on Seigurd (Scrapper, BS/Regen), of Norse Myth. He's pretty powerful, but somehow just doesn't quite capture the "feel" of a godlike character.

Thus, I made a character called "Nordhammer" (Tanker, Inv/Mace) who was supposed to be much like Thor without actually being him. This was even less satisfying as he had no real backstory for me to get into.

When Electric Armor came out, I made a Brute and a Tank with Mace/Elec, each one representing the mythological Thor. In many respects the Brute fits better conceptually (especially since he can take Mu Mastery later on), but I tend to prefer playing Tanks. Either way, I feel like I'm cheating somehow by just making Thor directly.

I did have the thought of transferring my Storm/Elec Defender over to the server, but he's just way too squishy.


What I'm looking for is a character concept that will capture the "feel" of Thor without actually being Thor, and I thought perhaps some of you could offer suggestions. I'm inclined to have a Tank, but I'm open to alternatives.

Any thoughts?


 

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Thrym, with ice/axe or axe/EA (colored white/blue pale, to look like frost ). He's the god of the frost giants.

Suthur, BS/fire, the god of the fire giants.

Aegir with mace/ invuln-WP , he's the evil god of the oceans.

Üller, arch/ice manip or cold/arch, the god of the winter and hunt i think.

That's the most easy to make that i remember from my old D&D tome of gods. =P

Basically, axe, mace, broadsword, archery can all be very good for that. WP and invuln are the easiest to have no FX, but if you can costum EA for your need, everything will "deflect" on the god. You could always go with a squishy for some kind of mental trickery and fire to make Loki, but that's further from the Thor concept.


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I'd suggest a Shield/Axe/Arctic Tank.

Shield and Axe make you right at home in the middle of a pack of minions swinging away and knocking them all over. You're giving up a bit of safety for better offence in choosing Shield.

Ice Storm at level 47 finally lets you control the weather, and in a pretty Scandinavian way.


 

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Originally Posted by DrMike2000 View Post
I'd suggest a Shield/Axe/Arctic Tank.

Shield and Axe make you right at home in the middle of a pack of minions swinging away and knocking them all over. You're giving up a bit of safety for better offence in choosing Shield.

Ice Storm at level 47 finally lets you control the weather, and in a pretty Scandinavian way.
Along these lines, an Axe/Shield/Mu Brute could work, too.


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I would try warmace/willpower/mu. You can make backstory where he truely is good but forced to work for arachnos or something like that.I am horrible at backstorys. When ROGUE comes out....you can bring him over to heroes.


 

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Originally Posted by Ultimo_ View Post
He's pretty powerful, but somehow just doesn't quite capture the "feel" of a godlike character.

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What I'm looking for is a character concept that will capture the "feel" of Thor without actually being Thor, and I thought perhaps some of you could offer suggestions. I'm inclined to have a Tank, but I'm open to alternatives.

Any thoughts?
Based on those two statements, I would suggest Axe/Shield/Mu, and slot enough KB in your attacks just to send stuff a little distance (a KB/Damage-or-Accuracy from one of the two level 50 sets is probably enough for most of the Axe attacks). Or make a point to slot the Kinetic Combat knockdown proc. If you go with Mace, slot the Stupefy proc and it should help cater to the "Away, weakling"-style of combat you're looking for.
With Shield, you help fortify that idea with the additional damage from AAO, and with Shield Charge, you get the described "godly" teleportation into combat--making your entrance noticeable, as it were. Not to mention the classic Norse Sword/Hammer/Axe + Shield layout.
Mu Mastery...more or less just the lightning concept from Thor. However, you might consider this Norse god for your toon (to draw back from the "predicted" Thor theme) and take Leviathan Mastery instead.

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Some good suggestions, thanks! I had considered possibly going to a different Norse God, like Tyr (I'd probably make him as an Axe/Shield tank or brute and give him a hook for a hand... It really should be the right, but what can you do...).

As an aside, the backstory of the Brute-Thor was that when he fell during Ragnarok, he wasn't actually dead, just in a kind of torpor (for those unfamiliar with it, according to the myth, Thor slew the Midgard Serpent and was felled himself in a torrent of its venom. It says he took 6 steps and fell himself, so I thought, perhaps he could have survived...). Centuries later, he awoke, greatly weakened and confused. Discovered in this state by agents of Arachnos, they turned his recovering power to their own ends. In time, he will recover his senses and go to Paragon City to redeem himself.

Nordhammer was originally conceieved as the heroic side of the story, in which he denied himself his own name. It just didn't feel right, though. I like the idea of being a Brute better. In any case, I may not go with Thor anyhow, and go to a different god.

Again, thanks for the input.


 

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Ultimo,

I did want to warn you, though, that if your backstory and name are too similar to Thor from Marvel, you can get generic'd. Just because the name Thor is in the common domain doesn't mean that the GMs won't take a more conservative bent on the naming issue, and give you a generic name. I'm not saying that they will, just giving you a bit of a warning on it.


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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn View Post
Ultimo,

I did want to warn you, though, that if your backstory and name are too similar to Thor from Marvel, you can get generic'd. Just because the name Thor is in the common domain doesn't mean that the GMs won't take a more conservative bent on the naming issue, and give you a generic name. I'm not saying that they will, just giving you a bit of a warning on it.
I'm aware, and they do have final say in such things, but were I to make a character named Thor or Hercules or any other mythological character, I would certainly have a leg to stand on for an appeal. The key is not to draw from the Marvel character.

In the case of Thor, that's actually pretty easy. Marvel's Thor actually doesn't resemble his mythological counterpart. Norse myth describes Thor as a large Red-bearded man, with firey red eyes and a quick, murderous temper. Mjolnir is a two handed hammer with a one handed haft that is too hot to touch without Thor's Gauntlets. Further, Thor supposedly wears a girdle that doubles his strength (supposedly, only his son Magni could lift Mjolnir without this belt on...). My version of Thor is thus depicted as a redbearded, gauntleted, girdled man with a completely different backstory (apart from the stuff drawn from the actual myths).