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I have 5 of my Electric Blast powers: CB, LB, SC, BL and Tesla.|
Originally Posted by cp2_4eva
Hello all. I have my dark/elec defender up to lvl 39 (havent trained from 38 to 39 YET) Im wondering in the electric secondary what powers would you advise I NOT take. I'm thinking of doing a respec soon. I haven't taken Zapp, and I took short circuit late. I'm kind of regretting taking it to a certain extent to. I sometime go into a mob and let it off, but not much. As far as travel powers I went super speed so I can couple it with shadow fall for that invisibility. Oh, I also too the voltaic sentinel. I like him around for a little added DPS. My play style is teaming, but I'd like to solo a bit too. I've tested the waters a little bit with soloing. Not bad. If I can squeeze some more increased damage out of set bonuses I should be ok. Oh, no Thunderous blast for me. For a defender nuke it would be meh and for a meh attack I damn sure wouldn't like to be drained of end. What are your takes. I had this convo a while ago with some folks on this forum, but that was back when I was like 20.
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The other 4 powers in Electric blast are all usefull, but I just could not fit them in.
The most skippable is your Nuke.
If you are going to avoid using Power-draining as a strategy, then you could theoretically just slot SC for damage and take Sparky as well.
Honestly though, you have to decide on your epic powers as well.
I chose Electric Mastery so that I can go into a group of mobs and use Short Circuit + Powersink to drain everything up to +2s right at the start of the fight. And Electric Fence becomes a third attack that I can use for damage in addition to keeping nasty melee mobs at bay.
Since you are Dark/Electric your character plays a bit different than mine, so take my advice with a grain of salt, because I have played Dark/Electric only to 28 in the past.
I would probably take Tesla, but not Pet.Gaze, Take both ELectric Blasts, Both AoEs, and Sparky. That rounds out your number of damage powers nicely. Then I would probably take Dark Mastery and Get OG, Dark Embrace(maybe not needed), Soul Drain and Dark Consumption.
OG adds even more control and combined with Tar Patch, the minions should be wandering around really slowly and staying in your DN area.
Soul Drain is SOOOO much better than Aim and combined with Hasten and/or good recharge will be up every fight. And Dark Consumption will help you refill your blue bar, since you will possibly be running quite a few toggles (especially with Dark Embrace also in the build)
So (if I were building it), Thats only skipping Aim, Zapp and TB. If you think you would like to fit in Zapp (Due to your ability to control/debuff mobs), then Drop SC or Sparky and replace it with Zapp. I would take the AoEs myself because getting in a group of villains and collapsing them in close for all those PBAoEs would be really solid fun I think.
BIOSPARK :: DARKTHORN :: SKYGUARD :: WILDMAGE
HEATSINK :: FASTHAND :: POWERCELL :: RUNESTAFF
Thanks Biospark for the info. So, yeah I think you made me change my decision on WHEN to respec. I currently have aim, but once I get dark consumption then aim would be highly droppable. I didn't think about that before. I am VERY familiar with alot of the dark scrapper/tank sets so yeah, I may go the Dark mastery route. The draining of enemies sounds enticing as well though. Something for me to think about in the near future. And why would you drop Pet gaze? That's part of my bread and butter. LOL! Render baddies helpless for a little while then they can't hit me as well, tar patch, go in for a soul drain, then I can short circuit and LB them. I think by that time they'd be almost dead, but this is theoretically speaking and depends on the faction Im fighting.
EDIT: Oh Pet gaze is the single target. I would say it's skippable, but sometimes a boss need some holding and pet gaze+tesla cage can do it. But yeah, It is skippable.
Agreed...but the ability to stack holds on bosses is awfully nice. I tend to get both on my Dark/Elec builds...
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Originally Posted by cp2_4eva
Thanks Biospark for the info. So, yeah I think you made me change my decision on WHEN to respec. I currently have aim, but once I get dark consumption then aim would be highly droppable. I didn't think about that before. I am VERY familiar with alot of the dark scrapper/tank sets so yeah, I may go the Dark mastery route. The draining of enemies sounds enticing as well though. Something for me to think about in the near future. And why would you drop Pet gaze? That's part of my bread and butter. LOL! Render baddies helpless for a little while then they can't hit me as well, tar patch, go in for a soul drain, then I can short circuit and LB them. I think by that time they'd be almost dead, but this is theoretically speaking and depends on the faction Im fighting.
EDIT: Oh Pet gaze is the single target. I would say it's skippable, but sometimes a boss need some holding and pet gaze+tesla cage can do it. But yeah, It is skippable. |
I think you meant Soul Drain when you said Dark Consumption, but yeah, knowing what Epic powers you are gonna use should help you sort out your other powers better.
As far as Pet. Gaze, I have used Tesla + Shocking Bolt on my character, but respecced out of it mainly because I usually only see Bosses on teams. Then its much less my job to hold them. Solo, being an Empath, means I am limited to how high I can crank up my difficulty, so I run without Bosses in my solo missions. Finally, since I went Electric mastery, my first power used on a Boss is Electric Fence to keep them immobilized while I Cycle Tesla twice.
One more thing regarding your powers is that Dark Servant cycles Pet Gaze, so you can often get help from him. If you can fit in Pet Gaze AND Tesla then thats awesome. No real reason not to do it. It just happened in my experience that Tesla is really fast, so stacking it on a boss is not really that hard.
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BIOSPARK :: DARKTHORN :: SKYGUARD :: WILDMAGE
HEATSINK :: FASTHAND :: POWERCELL :: RUNESTAFF
Yup, I meant soul drain. Sorry.
Although Fluffy is good at shooting of Pet gaze, he often is in a corner somewhere working on one baddy. I like when he shoot off tenab tentacle and hits like 5 baddies with it. So I take pet gaze and tesla to I can get a sure fire immob.
And you make the though of getting that OG and SD and all the dark sets so nice. I may even respec out of AIM so I can save a power. Since I have hasten on auto, I have to click AIM and sometimes i just plain old forget about AIM. I do have it slotted with adjusted targeting so the gain from that it nice. But I can through those into soul drain.
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I like the Defender version of Soul Drain alot. Scrappers version does more damage and has a larger overall boost, but the defender version recharges faster and with hasten and slotting you can have it up 75% of the time pretty easily. Not sure about Perma, but if anyone could do it, a defender could.
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Originally Posted by cp2_4eva
Yup, I meant soul drain. Sorry.
Although Fluffy is good at shooting of Pet gaze, he often is in a corner somewhere working on one baddy. I like when he shoot off tenab tentacle and hits like 5 baddies with it. So I take pet gaze and tesla to I can get a sure fire immob. And you make the though of getting that OG and SD and all the dark sets so nice. I may even respec out of AIM so I can save a power. Since I have hasten on auto, I have to click AIM and sometimes i just plain old forget about AIM. I do have it slotted with adjusted targeting so the gain from that it nice. But I can through those into soul drain. |
BIOSPARK :: DARKTHORN :: SKYGUARD :: WILDMAGE
HEATSINK :: FASTHAND :: POWERCELL :: RUNESTAFF
I'm leveling one of these right now, 17 at the moment... brings a question:
Can I run both pets at once? I wasn't planning on taking Voltaic Sentinel, but it would be kind of fun to have both it and Fluffy running around, maybe? Or does one pet dispel the other?
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Yup you can have both pets running. Voltaic go away quicker so you'll find yourself clicking him up alot more than fluffy. Voltaic has added to my overall DPS. I have tried soloing a bit with them (I am at lvl 40 now) This defender seems pretty successful at melting away mobs solo. Even with bosses. I immob then, fluffy can hit a few with the tentacles and I'll hit the mob with fearsome stare. I'll lay a patch first, because when you miss bosses with fearsome stare then will charge you and then it's too late. I have superspeed for maneuvering around the patch because they will attempt to run off. but if you have hover then you can hover over the patch and the baddies can melee, but they will shoot at you. |
Originally Posted by Majek
I'm leveling one of these right now, 17 at the moment... brings a question:
Can I run both pets at once? I wasn't planning on taking Voltaic Sentinel, but it would be kind of fun to have both it and Fluffy running around, maybe? Or does one pet dispel the other? |
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Cool, I figured you couldn't have two, nice to know.|
Originally Posted by cp2_4eva
Yup you can have both pets running. Voltaic go away quicker so you'll find yourself clicking him up alot more than fluffy.
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Hello all. I have my dark/elec defender up to lvl 39 (havent trained from 38 to 39 YET) Im wondering in the electric secondary what powers would you advise I NOT take. I'm thinking of doing a respec soon. I haven't taken Zapp, and I took short circuit late. I'm kind of regretting taking it to a certain extent to. I sometime go into a mob and let it off, but not much. As far as travel powers I went super speed so I can couple it with shadow fall for that invisibility. Oh, I also too the voltaic sentinel. I like him around for a little added DPS. My play style is teaming, but I'd like to solo a bit too. I've tested the waters a little bit with soloing. Not bad. If I can squeeze some more increased damage out of set bonuses I should be ok. Oh, no Thunderous blast for me. For a defender nuke it would be meh and for a meh attack I damn sure wouldn't like to be drained of end. What are your takes. I had this convo a while ago with some folks on this forum, but that was back when I was like 20.