How about we wait for Dual Pistols to come out and see what the developers do with the set.
Not sure this will be happening in the foreseeable future, if at all.
Read BaBs post here
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He is pretty explicit that any weapons for Dual Pistols fire bullets.
Hey gang...I'm looking for suggestions for potential (notice how that word is italicized? Pay attention to it!)new custom weapons for Dual Pistols. But before everyone goes bonkers, lemme lay out a few ground rules.
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Aaah. Well that's it then, I guess. No laser pistols. Bummer. Thanks for posting the above Shard_Warrior.
Laser Pistols would do Energy damage, not Lethal. A power set can only do ONE type of damage. This is why, for instance, Mace can't use any customizable weapons that have an edge on them. Mace does Smashing damage, so none of its choices can have a blade.
OTOH, Dual Pistols does have a mechanism to break that rule, or at least bend it. It has changable ammo, doing Fire, Cold or Toxic damage in addition to Lethal. So I suppose in theory it could have "energy bullets" that do Energy damage.
The design seems to be that the changable damage type is on top of the primary Lethal damage, though, and no more than 30% of the total. So the bullets could not be pure energy, they would have to be like electric bullets that shock you, as well as doing impact damage.
In short, while a cool idea, I don't think it will be added as an ammo type.
A better option might be to campaign for BaB to add a laser pistol as a customization for Energy Blast. There would be some hurdles to overcome, obviously it would add redraw time to a set that currently doesn't have any redraw, but if the blasts you fired from the pistol took the same animation time as the current attacks, there would be no change in cast time.
A totally new Power Set would be a possibility as well, although a very slim possiblity that would probably take a lot more time.
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Originally Posted by Jade_Dragon
A power set can only do ONE type of damage.
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Just looking at blasters... Fire Blast has powers such as Fire Ball that do Fire/Smashing damage. Energy Blast does Energy/Smashing damage. Ice Blast does Cold/Smash damage as well.
Shard Warrior - 50 MA/Regen/BM Scrapper
Founding Member and Leader : Shadow-Force
Co-Leader: Council of Heroes
"Whatever evils come this way... we will be there to stop them."
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I'm hoping what was meant is PC doesn't change damage type.
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Originally Posted by Shard_Warrior
Not entirely true.
Just looking at blasters... Fire Blast has powers such as Fire Ball that do Fire/Smashing damage. Energy Blast does Energy/Smashing damage. Ice Blast does Cold/Smash damage as well. |
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Technically, you're right, my statement should have been, "A power set can only do one or two types of damage." You can either have one attack doing two types of damage, like Energy/Smashing, or in some cases you actually have a separate option in a given Power, like Assault Rifle having Flamethrower and Ignite, to do Fire damage in place of Lethal. |
Originally Posted by Shard_Warrior
Not entirely true.
Just looking at blasters... Fire Blast has powers such as Fire Ball that do Fire/Smashing damage. Energy Blast does Energy/Smashing damage. Ice Blast does Cold/Smash damage as well. |
The bigger statement I was trying to make, though, is that as a whole, the Power Set has a main damage type, either alone, or in combination with another, lesser damage type. The majority of powers are of that damage type. So if you have a different type, as with Flamethrower, it is limited to that specific attack. You cannot go and make a Power Set that does Smashing damage with all of its attacks, and suddenly have it start doing Lethal damage. Even the ability to change ammo doesn't change more than 30% of the Dual Pistols damage.
I was also going to say that Lethal and Smashing cannot be combined, but actually that does tend to show up in explosive powers, like M30 Grenade. Even so, M30 Grenade retains the main Lethal damage that Assault Rifle does as a whole. It doesn't switch Smashing for Lethal, possibly because those two damage types are both physical, and thus similar. Usually, Smashing or Lethal is combined with something else, and the other damage types don't combine. (You'll never see Fire/Cold damage, for instance, although you can have Fire in one attack and Cold in the next)
Dual Pistols is already slated to be able to change ammo types (different effects), so at some point in the future laser blasts might be added (Robotics MMs have this already).
The problem seems to be is how to do ammo changes for "laser pistols" that make sense. Also, BaBs has made it pretty clear they just want bullets for now.
Shard Warrior - 50 MA/Regen/BM Scrapper
Founding Member and Leader : Shadow-Force
Co-Leader: Council of Heroes
"Whatever evils come this way... we will be there to stop them."
I'd like to suggest that Dual Pistols offer a weapon customization option that looks like high tech laser pistols and that alternate animations be put in so that these guns can fire bursts of colorable laster light instead of just bullets. Perhaps this can be the first set with alternate sounds for the lasers?