Ss/inv pvp

things are "balanced" In fight clubbing atm which means tanks have a decent chance of killing a brute and a brute has a decent chance of killing scrappers and vice versa. Fix fury and Brute> all other melee. Complaints will flame up, everyone will roll a brute, RV + SC dies and warburg becomes the only PvP zone. Do you really want that? Besides the real PvP, which is arena, Fury even if fixed won't have an effect there. So yeah im against "Fury Fix" cuz it won't fix or effect real PvP in the least.

There's a big diff between a good melee user and a baddo though. One makes a difference the other kinda throws rocks at things

I'm just saying that brutes furry is broken in pvp. If it's broken it needs to be fixed. Brutes have always been lolz compared to tanks and scrappers. I remember back in the day when furry was broken and all you seen in RV was EM/Elec brutes wrecking everything. I'm not saying make it that extreme but it does need to be modified, that's for sure.

Oh, I'm not debating that. A good melee will be able to work disruption via Taunt and webnades (if they have them, which many Brutes and Scrappers will) and occasionally contribute to damage spikes. I was only commenting on his insistence that a melee character is more interesting than a ranged character. I can understand that viewpoint, since a person who wants to rely only on themselves to stay alive and doesn't like moving or using inspirations will want a character that doesn't need either to compete against other characters meeting the same criteria.

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I'm good at what I do, dueling, and bad at what I don't do, warzone. The same goes for you....the only reason you enjoy warzone is because you’re better at it. You have certain preferences so that you excel, and that goes the same with me. I prefer dueling because I’m better at it then warzone. I prefer CoH over WoW because I’m better at it.

No matter how hard I may try, I’ll never be as good in warzone as dueling. Dueling 1v1 comes naturally to me.

Are you really saying that someone who enjoys melee over ranged is a bad player? Even you have to admit that’s incorrect. There are better players then you who enjoy melees more then ranged. I don’t know any specifically, but seeing as “tastes” do not come into play with skill, it can be assumed that they do indeed exist.

You can argue melee fights are harder because your health is dropping faster then if you were to run and kite. Really, you can argue either way. And that’s why I’ve drawn the conclusion that it’s all preferences.

One is not easier then the other. If it was, you could take a “step down” and beat every dueler correct? Since you said it was easier then warzone. Well, you couldn’t and you know that. They are 2 different games, and just because you excel at one does not mean you excel at the other. Learning one is not simpler then the other, playing one is not more simple then the other, because both include the craziest factor of all, a human mind. Something that can not be fully predicted in a situation with more then one choice.

Here's the funny thing: I've never lost a melee duel, even under your set of rules.

EDIT: To use some of the analogies from up-thread: once you learn to play real baseball, you don't forget how to play teeball. Once you learn how to swim, you don't suddenly forget how to stay above the water in the kiddie pool. Once you learn how to drive a stock car at Daytona, you don't forget how to drive on the street. Once you learn how to do integral calculus, you don't forget how to add or subtract. Same concept goes here - you're looking at different levels of PvP, and since moving up in ability level is simply building on what you've already learned, you don't just forget that.

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Who's to say one is harder then the other?

The best warzone player cannot "step down" and beat the best FCer. They are 2 different games. The warzone players tactics don't work when he standing still and the FCers tactics don't work when he has to chase his opponent. They each have their own tactics and are both on the same level of difficulty.

And this is where you're wrong.

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The only PvP spec'd melee I have on Justice is my Spines/Regin, and even that's specifically built for ranged combat (Webnades to keep 'em grounded and Shuriken, Impale, and Trow Spines for range), plus Spines just isn't all that good after I13. Generally my role in a team situation is webnade and tauntbot. Only other thing I have is a BS/WP at level 41 that I was working on for ladder matches but the ladder tanked before I finished it so I'm probably going to delete it. I've got an SS/Fire I use for farming but it's not worth the time, effort, or inf to accolade and dual-build just to prove someone is bad when I'm already 100% positive anyways.

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"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."

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"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."