Status Resistance Doesn't Seem Right?


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I 6 slotted Adjusted Targetting in Build Up for a 7.5% status resistance bonus and an Aegis status/psi resist in Force of Nature for a 20% status resistance bonus.

My power display window only shows an "ultimate status resistance bonus" of 6.98%.

Is the display wrong or am I not getting the full resistance bonus for some reason?


 

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If one of your powers is a toggle then the bonus will only be active if your toggle is on. Make sure it is turned on and then check the numbers again. If it is still not there than someone else with more knowledge than me will have to answer.


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Originally Posted by filcher View Post
I 6 slotted Adjusted Targetting in Build Up for a 7.5% status resistance bonus and an Aegis status/psi resist in Force of Nature for a 20% status resistance bonus.

My power display window only shows an "ultimate status resistance bonus" of 6.98%.

Is the display wrong or am I not getting the full resistance bonus for some reason?
Here's the detail on the Aegis Psi/Status resistance unique. Note the part about it "stacking a 5% bonus up to 5 times on repeated power activation." Also, that your AT has an effect on the strength of the psi resist.

As for the Adjusted Targeting 7.5% status resistance bonus, it maybe affected by AT modifiers too.


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Here's the detail on the Aegis Psi/Status resistance unique. Note the part about it "stacking a 5% bonus up to 5 times on repeated power activation." Also, that your AT has an effect on the strength of the psi resist.

As for the Adjusted Targeting 7.5% status resistance bonus, it maybe affected by AT modifiers too.
Last I heard, normal set bonuses shouldn't be affected by AT, but I could be mistaken.


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I just tracked down one of my characters that has the Impervious Skin status resistance ( 7.5% status effect duration reduction ) slotted. She's a scrapper and it's giving 6.98% duration reduction. Also interesting that the power that has the Impervious Skin status reduction slotted does not have to be 'on', unlike the status reduction from Aegis. (Impervious Skin doesn't 'stack' though, so a different mechanic is being used.)

I'd turn on Force of Nature and see how the numbers change. Pretty sure the 6.98% you see is the Adjusted Targeting set bonus only.


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I just tracked down one of my characters that has the Impervious Skin status resistance ( 7.5% status effect duration reduction ) slotted. She's a scrapper and it's giving 6.98% duration reduction. Also interesting that the power that has the Impervious Skin status reduction slotted does not have to be 'on', unlike the status reduction from Aegis. (Impervious Skin doesn't 'stack' though, so a different mechanic is being used.)

I'd turn on Force of Nature and see how the numbers change. Pretty sure the 6.98% you see is the Adjusted Targeting set bonus only.
Yeah, Impervious Skin is a standard global, Aegis is... a hybrid of a proc120 and a global (set bonus) special-type IO.


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Last I heard, normal set bonuses shouldn't be affected by AT, but I could be mistaken.
There were a couple of AT-sensitive set bonuses that I was aware of - this being one and the other being one of the Psi Resist ones. They fixed, I'm told, the Psi Resist ones; I haven't checked it out myself.

Seemed like a bad idea to me, not that anyone asked.


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I 6 slotted Adjusted Targetting in Build Up for a 7.5% status resistance bonus and an Aegis status/psi resist in Force of Nature for a 20% status resistance bonus.

My power display window only shows an "ultimate status resistance bonus" of 6.98%.

Is the display wrong or am I not getting the full resistance bonus for some reason?
I didn't read the whole thread, but I don't think anyone answered this correctly yet in my skimming, so here is the answer:

The display is correct, but is displaying a different value from what you think. The IO provides a 7.5% resistance (it says duration reduction, it's lying), but the display shows duration reducation, not resistance. So 1-1/(1+7.5%) = 6.98%. (the mez duration formula is (duration)/(1 + mezResistance) ) Now if you're ready to get really confused, the Aegis IO actually provides a 20% duration reduction which is actually caused by a 25% mez resistance (in 5% bursts).

The nomenclature is inconsistent which leads to confusion. I'm happy to clarify any questions people may have on the matter, so let me know if that's unclear.


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... The IO provides a 7.5% resistance (it says duration reduction, it's lying), but the display shows duration reducation, not resistance. So 1-1/(1+7.5%) = 6.98%. (the mez duration formula is (duration)/(1 + mezResistance) ) ...
Thanks for the equation; that's what I was scouring Wiki looking for. I figured it was a difference in what the set bonus / recipe described vs. what was being displayed in Combat Attributes. Kind of like the regeneration rates being displayed as already calculated percentage of base vs. the flat rate described in the set bonuses.


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Thanks for the equation; that's what I was scouring Wiki looking for. I figured it was a difference in what the set bonus / recipe described vs. what was being displayed in Combat Attributes. Kind of like the regeneration rates being displayed as already calculated percentage of base vs. the flat rate described in the set bonuses.
Yup, you just have to be careful though, because the game is inconsistent and sometimes switches what it's calling mez resistance and mez reduction. The real numbers though report mez reduction so you can calculate mez resistance from that if all else fails.


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Well I figured that the Adjusted Targetting IO bonus was being displayed and that it probably had something to do with how it was calculated.

However that still doesn't explain the Aegis 20%. It does not indiicate in the description that it is a proc. But on the chance that it was I activated Force of Nature and saw a "large status resistance bonus" pop up of a little over 4%. Is that the Aegis and is that correct? If so I guess I need 2 respec and move it into my damage resistance toggle.


 

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Well I figured that the Adjusted Targetting IO bonus was being displayed and that it probably had something to do with how it was calculated.

However that still doesn't explain the Aegis 20%. It does not indiicate in the description that it is a proc. But on the chance that it was I activated Force of Nature and saw a "large status resistance bonus" pop up of a little over 4%. Is that the Aegis and is that correct? If so I guess I need 2 respec and move it into my damage resistance toggle.
Yes, that's right:
From the wiki link I posted above:

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In addition, when the power the enhancement is slotted in is used, the user is granted up to five Large Status Resistance Bonuses of indefinite duration. These act as set bonuses, buffing resistance to six status effects (hold, immobilize, stun, sleep, confuse, and terrorize) by 5.0% each.


Up to five Large Status Resistance Bonuses can be stacked, for a total of 25.0% status protection, which will reduce mez durations to 80% (1 / (1 + 0.25)).


If slotted in a click power, one bonus will stack per use. If slotted in a toggle power, one bonus will be granted upon activation, and another bonus per ten seconds of use thereafter. If slotted in a passive, one bonus will stack every ten seconds, except when defeated.
So one hit of 5% status protection will give a duration reduction of 1- (1/(1 + 0.05)) = 0.0476 which is 4.76%

A toggle or passive is the way to go.


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Just to explain the Paragon Wiki page a little better, in a toggle or a passive, every 10 seconds you will get a 5% resistance bonus up to 25%. Thus it will take 40 seconds to reach your full status resistance after zoning or any other action which resets your bonuses. However, assuming you don't zone, the bonuses last indefinitely, so at any point you can turn off the toggle power and keep however much of the bonus has "charged" at that point.

I think the aegis is now the hardest IO to understand since they fixed force feedback. I hope this helps.


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