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Can anyone help me with my SS/Invul

basotl

By basotl,
Posted on: 2009-10-18 10:26 in Tankers

 

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I've done atleast 5 respecs and I can't seem to make a good SS/Invul tank for PvE....can anyone help me?

 

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Originally Posted by Slippeh View Post
I've done atleast 5 respecs and I can't seem to make a good SS/Invul tank for PvE....can anyone help me?
This basic build served me well for many years.

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Heraclea old: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Invulnerability
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Temp Invulnerability -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(5), ResDam(7), ResDam(13), ResDam(15)
Level 1: Jab -- Acc(A), Dmg(31), EndRdx(42), Acc(43), Dmg(43), Dmg(43)
Level 2: Dull Pain -- RechRdx(A), Heal(3), RechRdx(3), Heal(13), RechRdx(15), Heal(37)
Level 4: Haymaker -- Acc(A), EndRdx(5), Acc(7), Dmg(34), Dmg(34), Dmg(36)
Level 6: Swift -- Run(A)
Level 8: Unyielding -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(9), ResDam(9), ResDam(45), ResDam(46)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(11), RechRdx(11)
Level 12: Air Superiority -- Acc(A), Dmg(25), Dmg(33), Dmg(37), Acc(48), EndRdx(50)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Run(A)
Level 16: Health -- Heal(A), Heal(17), Heal(17)
Level 18: Invincibility -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(19), DefBuff(19), Taunt(31), DefBuff(46), DefBuff(46)
Level 20: Knockout Blow -- Acc(A), EndRdx(21), Acc(21), Dmg(31), Dmg(33), Dmg(33)
Level 22: Stamina -- EndMod(A), EndMod(23), EndMod(23)
Level 24: Boxing -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(25)
Level 26: Tough -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(27), ResDam(27), ResDam(34), ResDam(37)
Level 28: Tough Hide -- DefBuff(A), DefBuff(29), DefBuff(29)
Level 30: Resist Energies -- ResDam(A)
Level 32: Resist Elements -- ResDam(A)
Level 35: Hurl -- Acc(A), EndRdx(36), Acc(36), Dmg(40), Dmg(48), Range(48)
Level 38: Foot Stomp -- Acc(A), RechRdx(39), Acc(39), Dmg(39), Dmg(40), Dmg(40)
Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(42), RechRdx(42)
Level 44: Weave -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(45), DefBuff(45), DefBuff(50), DefBuff(50)
Level 47: Taunt -- Taunt(A)
Level 49: Resist Physical Damage -- ResDam(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet


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Out of curiosity, why Jab and not Punch, since the build already has boxing, AS and brawl? There's no shortage of fast-recharging melee attacks there.

 

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Originally Posted by Laevateinn View Post
Out of curiosity, why Jab and not Punch, since the build already has boxing, AS and brawl? There's no shortage of fast-recharging melee attacks there.
Because this is a tanker build and you don't have a choice but to take Jab.


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Originally Posted by Heraclea View Post
Because this is a tanker build and you don't have a choice but to take Jab.
You can tell I'm getting too old for this!

 

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I have a very similar build on my 50 Invuln/SS.

 

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Another thing, let us know what you generally use your toon for? You said PvE, but do you solo much? Or team?

Heraclea has said in the past that she typically doesn't pick Rage. The ToHit buff in Rage could possibly eliminate the need for two Accuracies she has in each of her attacks. I'd guess that Heraclea teams far more than she solos.

Below is my main's build. He solos mostly and only teams for TF's or Raids or Giant Monster hunting. I did not choose Tough/Weave, cuz I think that's wasted on a solo build.

I unwisely chose Assault to get a little more damage; on my next freespec, I'll drop Assault, and pick Punch or Haymaker, remove all slots from Jab and put them into Punch or Haymaker. That will do far more for my damage output than Assault.

I chose Taunt way before Heraclea, primarily b/c I spend a lot of time exemped down doing Ouro arcs or re-doing TF's.

(Yeah, yeah; I can already hear you all: "Steadfast in Unyielding????? wtf were you thinking?" But Unyielding is the only Resist power in Invuln that affects all types of Resist instead of only one or two.)

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
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GATE-keeper: Level 50 Science Tanker
Primary Power Set: Invulnerability
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Temp Invulnerability -- ResDam-I:40(A), ResDam-I:40(3), ResDam-I:40(7)
Level 1: Jab -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg:42(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx:44(5), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg:47(13), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:44(34), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:42(34), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:42(36)
Level 2: Dull Pain -- RechRdx-I:45(A), RechRdx-I:45(3), RechRdx-I:45(11), Heal-I:45(37), Heal-I:45(39), Heal-I:45(39)
Level 4: Resist Physical Damage -- ResDam-I:40(A), ResDam-I:40(5), ResDam-I:40(9)
Level 6: Air Superiority -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg:47(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx:49(7), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg:49(13), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:48(33), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:48(36), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:48(37)
Level 8: Unyielding -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg:40(9), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:29(11), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(15), Aegis-ResDam:40(15), Aegis-Psi/Status:40(31)
Level 10: Swift -- Flight-I:45(A)
Level 12: Assault -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 14: Fly -- Flight-I:45(A), Flight-I:45(33)
Level 16: Health -- Heal-I:40(A), Heal-I:40(17), Heal-I:40(17)
Level 18: Invincibility -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:40(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg:50(19), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg:45(19), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:42(27), LkGmblr-Def:42(27), LkGmblr-Rchg+:42(31)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I:40(A), EndMod-I:40(21), EndMod-I:40(21)
Level 22: Knockout Blow -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg:49(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx:50(23), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg:49(23), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:49(34), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:49(36), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(37)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:45(A), RechRdx-I:45(25), RechRdx-I:45(25)
Level 26: Taunt -- Range-I:50(A)
Level 28: Rage -- GSFC-ToHit:50(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg:50(29), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx:50(29), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx:50(43), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx:50(43), GSFC-Build%:50(43)
Level 30: Tough Hide -- DefBuff-I:40(A), DefBuff-I:40(31), DefBuff-I:40(33)
Level 32: Unstoppable -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 35: Resist Energies -- ResDam-I:40(A), ResDam-I:40(46), ResDam-I:40(48)
Level 38: Foot Stomp -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg:46(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx:42(39), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg:50(40), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg:45(40), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:44(40), Sciroc-Dam%:46(42)
Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I:40(A), RechRdx-I:40(42), RechRdx-I:40(42)
Level 44: Laser Beam Eyes -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg:42(A), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx:45(45), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg:46(45), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(45), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(46), Dev'n-Hold%:50(46)
Level 47: Energy Torrent -- Acc-I:50(A), Dmg-I:50(48), Dmg-I:50(48), EndRdx-I:50(50)
Level 49: Resist Elements -- ResDam-I:40(A), ResDam-I:40(50), ResDam-I:40(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I:50(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I:45(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet

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In the old days, I didn't pick Rage for concept reasons. Yes, this was a reason why I slotted up Accuracy. I still do. I just found that build because it was very basic, worked well enough for a long time, and was adequately tough without IO sets.

This build uses sets, and is designed with the current sidekicking system in mind:

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.601
http://www.cohplanner.com/

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Heraclea build 2: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Invulnerability
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Temp Invulnerability -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(9), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(11), RctvArm-ResDam:40(13), RctvArm-EndRdx:40(15)
Level 1: Jab -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(7), KntkC'bat-Knock%:35(37), Acc-I:50(43)
Level 2: Dull Pain -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(3), RechRdx-I:50(34), Heal-I:50(34), Heal-I:50(34), Heal-I:50(36)
Level 4: Haymaker -- Mako-Acc/Dmg:35(A), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:35(5), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(5), P'ngFist-Acc/Dmg:25(13), P'ngFist-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:25(36), P'ngFist-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:25(43)
Level 6: Air Superiority -- S'ngH'mkr-Acc/Dmg:35(A), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx:35(7), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/Rchg:35(36), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(37), P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg:30(43), P'ngS'Fest-Stun%:30(48)
Level 8: Unyielding -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(9), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(11), RctvArm-ResDam:40(15), RctvArm-EndRdx:40(33)
Level 10: Swift -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 12: Taunt -- Mocking-Taunt:50(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg:50(37), Mocking-Taunt/Rng:50(46), Mocking-Rchg:50(46)
Level 14: Fly -- Zephyr-Travel:50(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:50(48)
Level 16: Health -- Heal-I:50(A), Heal-I:50(17), Heal-I:50(17), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(40)
Level 18: Invincibility -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx:40(A), GftotA-Def/Rchg:40(19), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:40(19), GftotA-Def:40(45), Taunt-I:50(45), GSFC-Build%:50(50)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I:50(A), EndMod-I:50(21), P'Shift-EndMod:50(21), P'Shift-End%:50(45)
Level 22: Knockout Blow -- S'ngH'mkr-Acc/Dmg:35(A), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx:35(23), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/Rchg:35(23), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(25), P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg:30(25), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx:30(33)
Level 24: Boxing -- Acc-I:50(A)
Level 26: Tough Hide -- DefBuff-I:50(A), DefBuff-I:50(27), DefBuff-I:50(27)
Level 28: Rage -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(29), RechRdx-I:50(29), Rec'dRet-Pcptn:20(46)
Level 30: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(31), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(31), RctvArm-ResDam:40(31), RctvArm-EndRdx:40(33)
Level 32: Resist Physical Damage -- ImpArm-ResDam:40(A), ImpArm-ResPsi:40(50)
Level 35: Resist Energies -- ImpArm-ResDam:40(A), ImpArm-ResPsi:40(50)
Level 38: Foot Stomp -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg:50(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx:50(39), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg:50(39), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx:50(39), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(40), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(40)
Level 41: Weave -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx:40(A), GftotA-EndRdx/Rchg:40(42), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:40(42), GftotA-Def:40(42)
Level 44: Resist Elements -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(A)
Level 47: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(48)
Level 49: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-End%:50(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet


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My Hulkish build is very very simular to Heraclea's. I borrowed a bit ( ok I flat out used :P ) some slotting ideas from Herc's post on her build from a few years ago. I integrated some of my own ideas from my Tanker experiences. The main difference of the SS/Inv tanker is the endo usage. It took a bit of time to get the timing and what-not down from my Willpower/Stone Melee tanker which NEVER has endo issues. Anyway, this is just a new perspective for you ( The O.P. ) to peek at. Ultimately there is no one "right" build. Your playstyle will dictate what "works" for you. Just have fun with it !

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.601
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The Gnarly Kid: Level 50 Natural Tanker
Primary Power Set: Invulnerability
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Temp Invulnerability -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(9), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(11), RctvArm-ResDam:40(13), RctvArm-EndRdx:40(15)
Level 1: Jab -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(7), KntkC'bat-Knock%:35(37), P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg:30(42), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx:30(43)
Level 2: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:50(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg:50(3), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(34), Dct'dW-Heal:50(34), Dct'dW-Rchg:50(34)
Level 4: Haymaker -- Mako-Acc/Dmg:35(A), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:35(5), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(5), P'ngFist-Acc/Dmg:25(13), P'ngFist-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:25(36), P'ngFist-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:25(43)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- Zephyr-Travel:50(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:50(7), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(36), LkGmblr-Def:50(37)
Level 8: Unyielding -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(9), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(11), RctvArm-ResDam:40(15), RctvArm-EndRdx:40(33)
Level 10: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 12: Taunt -- Mocking-Taunt:50(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng:50(29), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg:50(37), Mocking-Taunt/Rng:50(46), Mocking-Rchg:50(46)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Zephyr-Travel:50(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:50(48)
Level 16: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(A), Numna-Heal:50(17), Heal-I:50(17)
Level 18: Invincibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:40(A), LkGmblr-Def:40(19), Ksmt-ToHit+:30(19), DefBuff-I:40(45), Taunt-I:50(45), GSFC-Build%:50(50)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%:50(A), P'Shift-EndMod:50(21), EndMod-I:50(21)
Level 22: Knockout Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(23), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(23), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(25), P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg:30(25), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx:30(33)
Level 24: Boxing -- Acc-I:50(A)
Level 26: Tough Hide -- DefBuff-I:30(A), DefBuff-I:50(27), LkGmblr-Rchg+:30(27), LkGmblr-Def:50(36)
Level 28: Rage -- AdjTgt-ToHit:50(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg:50(29), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg:50(43), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx:21(46), AdjTgt-Rchg:50(48)
Level 30: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(31), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(31), RctvArm-ResDam:40(31), RctvArm-EndRdx:40(33)
Level 32: Resist Physical Damage -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx:30(50)
Level 35: Resist Energies -- ImpArm-ResDam:40(A), ImpArm-ResPsi:40(40)
Level 38: Foot Stomp -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg:50(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx:50(39), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg:50(39), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx:50(39), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(40), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(40)
Level 41: Weave -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx:40(A), RedFtn-Def:40(42), RedFtn-EndRdx:40(42), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(50)
Level 44: Resist Elements -- ImpArm-ResDam:40(A), ImpArm-ResPsi:40(45)
Level 47: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(48)
Level 49: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-End%:50(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I:50(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth:50(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet

 

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Originally Posted by GATE-keeper View Post
(Yeah, yeah; I can already hear you all: "Steadfast in Unyielding????? wtf were you thinking?" But Unyielding is the only Resist power in Invuln that affects all types of Resist instead of only one or two.)
Not sure why we would, considering that it makes absolutely no difference which Resistance power you slot the SP +Def in; you get the 3% def to all regardless.

Well, I guess it might make a small difference if slotting it meant that you underslotted a power for resistance that probably should be fully slotted, like UY or TI, but barring that, it really doesn't matter.

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Hey guys tyvm for the reply's and I'm going to try out all of the builds

I don't usually solo but I like to 'farm' and Idk if Tanks are even good for farming or not!