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What actually stacks is the range (distance) at which enemies detect your presence through perception. http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Perception and http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Limits...and_Perception|
Originally Posted by Garret
My question is about my arch/MM blaster but in a more general way. I'm wondering if i stack stealth from the concealment pool with a celerity stealth IO will i be able to enter the middle of a group and cast aim/concentration/RoA/drain psyche and psychic shockwave in relative safety as a massive alpha without detection. I could lead with Flash freeze from the epic pool as well if needed. I know that superspeed combined with a stealth IO provides adequate "invisibility" but I am not a fan of using SS.I know my after RoA drops they will be alerted to my prescence but I'm hoping a scatter effect of sorts happens first.
When coupled with the slow effect from flash freeze, am i better off leading with PS and finishing with RoA? Is this viable? Thank you in advance. |
For most bosses and minions, a double stacked stealth means you can walk up to them and thumb your nose. Some enemy types, though (Cap snipers come to mind, among others), have better perception ranges where even a double stacked stealth/invis won't prevent them from seeing you.
Keep in mind, though, once you cast an offensive power, you're "seen" (i.e. targetable), regardless of what stealth/invis you have (rather, had, despite screen appearances) up.
(Edited to add: I think the point at which you're "seen" in the case you describe is at the time when you cast your RoA. As I understand it - and have experienced it - powers that only affect - or make use of - only yourself and/or your teammates will not make you targetable. Any power that affects or actively makes use of the enemy will make you targetable.)
Also keep in mind that "Stealthy opponents can be affected by powers even when they can't be detected. They simply can't be targeted." which means you're still subject to any AOE damage in the vicinity you're in.
Hope this helps. I use this tactic a lot with a bot/traps MM (including "toe bombing" with trip mines), a peacebringer to land a built-up double-strike in human form, as well as keeping my emp/elec defender (with limited-range radius auras, buffs, and leadership) in very close proximity with my team in the midst the enemy without getting shot at. I've had enemies literally run into me without their noticing my presence.
(FWIW, I almost always try to get a Celerity or Unbounded Leap +stealth or equivalent to slot into sprint or perhaps another movement power as soon as possible, with or without the Concealment pool power, a pool power which might not even be necessary after obtaining the IO. It gives a lot of safety in moving around the map and missions and provides first-shot tactical possibilities.)
Just be aware that some enemies can even see through stealth cap. These are rikti drones, Knives of Artemis, Rularuu, and I think nemesis and crey snipers
And EBs and higher ranked have extra perception.
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My question is about my arch/MM blaster but in a more general way. I'm wondering if i stack stealth from the concealment pool with a celerity stealth IO will i be able to enter the middle of a group and cast aim/concentration/RoA/drain psyche and psychic shockwave in relative safety as a massive alpha without detection. I could lead with Flash freeze from the epic pool as well if needed. I know that superspeed combined with a stealth IO provides adequate "invisibility" but I am not a fan of using SS.I know my after RoA drops they will be alerted to my prescence but I'm hoping a scatter effect of sorts happens first.
When coupled with the slow effect from flash freeze, am i better off leading with PS and finishing with RoA?
Is this viable?
Thank you in advance.