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There is no such thing as a very good Nin out there. Only lots of infamy spent to achieve 60 second down time on the tier 9. Then all you do is run around AS'in, spamming sharks, and healing when you get hit.|
Originally Posted by QuantumTrance
i am about to start a new toon, but not sure what to go for... if either BS/nin or BS/regen...
i am guessing /nin will cost lots of influ and regen can be a lot cheaper... but i've seen very good Nin out there, and i want build to work on both Siren's and RV... which would fit best if used on both zones... i need some expert opinion please... and if Nin is chosen, will 2bil be enough to Slot it up? will it work without those expensive PVP IOs, like with only regular or some purples... |
On topic, I would go with BS/Regen because you know your limits of survivability.
People could say the same thing about your bs/regen scrapper with phase Roman. Sure a build can be easy to play, but if a person sucks then well... they suck. I've seen good nins bad nins and great nins. It all depends on the person behind the toon more so then the inf invested in it.
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You have a point there, skill is always a factor.
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Originally Posted by SmegHead
People could say the same thing about your bs/regen scrapper with phase Roman. Sure a build can be easy to play, but if a person sucks then well... they suck. I've seen good nins bad nins and great nins. It all depends on the person behind the toon more so then the inf invested in it.
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Both are good, but yeah, nin will take a big investment to become unkillable. Regen is unkillable out of the box, with SO's. As long as the player isn't horrible and/or it's not like 6v1 odds.
I have both stalkers, and in RV, the nin is almost godlike when retsu is up. When it's not though, it's literally like playing without a secondary. Everybody hits me with every single shot. If you can spend enough money to get to retsu levels without having retsu, or to have it almost perma, it would be pretty game changing.
Meanwhile, on my regen I get hit with everything, but I can healzor myself. With DP, IH, MoG, phase, and hiber....yeah, it's tough to kill a regen.
Not sure why anybody would do BS for a stalker though....other than style/originality. It seems that anything BS can do, elec and EM can do better.
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Truth. | Not sure why anybody would do BS for a stalker though....other than style/originality. It seems that anything BS can do, elec and EM can do better. |
BS does have parry, but if you're a stalker and you're using parry in a open zone, something is wrong. Unless ofcourse its a duel.
Thing about nin is I like it and play it my only stalker is spines/nin but the no KB protection hurts. Their was this stalker in RV yesterday and I was knocking him left and right on my energy blaster. A KBed anything is easy pickings.
WP > everything else. An EM does WAY more dmg then BS.
Iz my turn?!?!?
I prefer /nin, used well with Shadow Meld and Invis toggle management, I manage to get killed very little. Shadow Meld puts you @ about retsu lvl defense for 15 seconds, and is mistaken for retsu quite alot.
Personally, I prefer /nin simply becuase of its level of survivability in 1v1 and 1v2 scenarios where blinding powder can make a dramatic difference. It also has the highest capability for +damage slotting.
WP tends to be about the same / a little less then ninjitsu, but acheives that level quickly and without as much investment as a comparable ninjitsu.
lolBS. Headsplitter =146 Base and ET is 228 base I beleive. Now Headsplitter can crit fully, for numbers looking like 292 vs 228, but using placate before HS in order to get the crit brings the amount of damage into a very close range, with ET > HS.
So honestly, You CAN go BS, but it's not the best or anything close to the best.
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I have a /nin and a /regen, and I have to agree with that statement. With nin, you're still subject to bad luck. With WP, a good player will basically not die, ever. Unless he gets careless and stops caring about dying. Regen is also unkillable, but WP has way more offensive capabilities.|
Originally Posted by __Divine__
WP > everything else.
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Also, epsilon, please describe in detail how you use blinding powder. I've never really used it personally. Mainly cuz I play my /nin mostly in sirens. But I tried it at some point after I13, and when I used it, I got suppressed for longer than my target was mezzed, so I couldnt even get in range to attack lol. Do you use it from melee range or something?
I use blinding powder to AS fast moving targets. You need to use it as your jumping into someone. Also its helpful detoggling stormies since they give nin problems. Very useful along with placate for surviving.
i am about to start a new toon, but not sure what to go for... if either BS/nin or BS/regen...
i am guessing /nin will cost lots of influ and regen can be a lot cheaper...
but i've seen very good Nin out there, and i want build to work on both Siren's and RV... which would fit best if used on both zones... i need some expert opinion please...
and if Nin is chosen, will 2bil be enough to Slot it up? will it work without those expensive PVP IOs, like with only regular or some purples...