Dark Miasma and a Proc?


Carnifax

 

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Darkest Night is a targetted toggle so does the proc fire off every 10 secs (or every 5 ticks) or just once when targetted?

The toggle affects nearby foes so does the proc also fire off for each foe affected and does it fire off every 10 secs (or every 5 ticks) or once when targetted?

Since foes can move into and out of range of the targetted foe how does that affect the proc?

Tar Patch is a persistant targetted AoE does the proc fire off once when it is activated or does it, like a rain, continue to fire off every 10 secs?

Since foes can move into/out of the Patch how are they affected by the proc?

How is a proc slotted into Dark Servant affected?

Does it fire off every 10 secs? If so, what is the radius of affect?

And/or does it fire off every time DS uses an attack or only on specific attacks? Does the type of proc matter (i.e. damage vs, say, a slow recharge effect)?


 

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Originally Posted by filcher View Post
Darkest Night is a targetted toggle so does the proc fire off every 10 secs (or every 5 ticks) or just once when targetted?
Every 10 seconds, including one check at "zero" seconds when you activate it.

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The toggle affects nearby foes so does the proc also fire off for each foe affected and does it fire off every 10 secs (or every 5 ticks) or once when targetted?
When the proc is allowed to go off on its 10 second intervals, it checks every target in the area of effect. It has a chance to go off with the listed probability on each target.

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Since foes can move into and out of range of the targetted foe how does that affect the proc?
They only have a chance to be affected if they are in the area when the proc is checked.

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Tar Patch is a persistant targetted AoE does the proc fire off once when it is activated or does it, like a rain, continue to fire off every 10 secs?
Mechanically, Tar Patch works just like a rain.

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Since foes can move into/out of the Patch how are they affected by the proc?
As above for Darkest Night.

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How is a proc slotted into Dark Servant affected?
A proc in Dark Servant acts based on what the servant is doing. If you slot a hold proc in Dark Servant, it only checks when the Servant uses its hold. Likewise with its immobilize. One of the best things to slot in Dark Servant for frequency of triggering is a Dark Watcher's Despair: Chance for Recharge Slow or a Cloud Senses: Chance of Negative Energy Damage, because so many of the Servant's powers apply toHit debuffs. Particularly, the Chill of the Night aura he uses is always on, autohit and wide-area.

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Does it fire off every 10 secs? If so, what is the radius of affect?
A toHit debuff proc will check for activation off once per target per 10 seconds in the aura and once per power activation per target in powers like Tenebrous Tentacles and Twilight Grasp. Other procs will check when the powers they could be slotted in on a player are activated. The proc doesn't have a radius of effect, but rather has a chance to affect everything hit by the power it is slotted in.

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And/or does it fire off every time DS uses an attack or only on specific attacks? Does the type of proc matter (i.e. damage vs, say, a slow recharge effect)?
What the proc delivers to a foe does not matter, but it does matter what kind of set the proc is in. You cannot slot damage sets in Dark Servant. If you slot something like a hold set's proc in him, it will only go off when he uses a hold, etc.


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Awesome Sauce...thank you very much for clearing that up! I did indeed slot Dark Despair Chance for Recharge Slow and your answers reenforced what I though should be happening. Thank you again, UberGuy


 

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One thing I realized I didn't mention is that, when a proc checks for activations, it likely only checks whether it goes off on valid targets the area of effect of powers its slotted in. For example, Darkest Night has a maximum number of targets of 16. Even if more foes were caught in the 25' radius, a proc slotted in it probably cannot check against more than the 16 affected foes. This is supposition on my part, however. It seems logical, but I've never tested it.


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American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

 

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Originally Posted by UberGuy View Post
A proc in Dark Servant acts based on what the servant is doing. If you slot a hold proc in Dark Servant, it only checks when the Servant uses its hold. Likewise with its immobilize. One of the best things to slot in Dark Servant for frequency of triggering is a Dark Watcher's Despair: Chance for Recharge Slow or a Cloud Senses: Chance of Negative Energy Damage, because so many of the Servant's powers apply toHit debuffs. Particularly, the Chill of the Night aura he uses is always on, autohit and wide-area.

A toHit debuff proc will check for activation off once per target per 10 seconds in the aura and once per power activation per target in powers like Tenebrous Tentacles and Twilight Grasp. Other procs will check when the powers they could be slotted in on a player are activated. The proc doesn't have a radius of effect, but rather has a chance to affect everything hit by the power it is slotted in.

What the proc delivers to a foe does not matter, but it does matter what kind of set the proc is in. You cannot slot damage sets in Dark Servant. If you slot something like a hold set's proc in him, it will only go off when he uses a hold, etc.
Just on Cloud Senses, that will only PROC on powers which use Accurate -ToHit won't they? So just Tentacles & Twilight Grasp will PROC, since they're the only 2 powers which require a ToHit checck and do -ToHit. Chill of the Night and Darkest Night won't get to use it (or will they? My Necro/Dark MM really would like to know )


 

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Originally Posted by Carnifax View Post
Just on Cloud Senses, that will only PROC on powers which use Accurate -ToHit won't they? So just Tentacles & Twilight Grasp will PROC, since they're the only 2 powers which require a ToHit checck and do -ToHit. Chill of the Night and Darkest Night won't get to use it (or will they? My Necro/Dark MM really would like to know )
I strongly suspect they will work, because the powers perform the function that the set enhances. (Accuracy isn't something powers do as much as something powers have.) However, I haven't tested it myself.


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American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA