I was the first to die 
We got split up when the ambush came. Shortly after I died i did get a debt badge. Wasn't the badge I was hoping for but I still had a blast.
I'm just going to add another idea to the mix.
What if you pull Reichsman out to the doorway so that the ambushes will bottleneck and get stuck in the hallway behind him? A couple brutes keeping the ambushes stuck might lessen the accidental agro onto squishies.
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Towards the end, I was in the doorway blocking them a bit, but I think the initial ambushes came from the sides as well...just appearing.
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Originally Posted by Master-Blade
I'm just going to add another idea to the mix.
What if you pull Reichsman out to the doorway so that the ambushes will bottleneck and get stuck in the hallway behind him? A couple brutes keeping the ambushes stuck might lessen the accidental agro onto squishies. |
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I was actually talking about the door portion of the mission here...after we get the key - glowie hunt & boss kill right?
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Originally Posted by Nericus
Again Stalker with tp. Or else Team can fly at hi altitude and dive down to the area.
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Originally Posted by Nericus
Who did that to you? of course what's worse is when someone stays in the mission claiming "Reichsman can't touch me!" instead of following orders to leave the mission.
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I was under the impression there was some sort of timer for standing around picking Reichsman's nose so I was doing just that.
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If I'm not mistaken, the one time I did this SF, some of the ambushes *did* spawn in the main room, not just from the hallway. They just appeared suddenly beside you.
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Originally Posted by Mr E-Man
Towards the end, I was in the doorway blocking them a bit, but I think the initial ambushes came from the sides as well...just appearing.
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Ambushes can indeed spawn atop you in the last mish. Kinda lousy eh? |
Originally Posted by Luna de Nocturne
If I'm not mistaken, the one time I did this SF, some of the ambushes *did* spawn in the main room, not just from the hallway. They just appeared suddenly beside you.
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Aye. The ambushes spawn everywhere there are mobs throughout the map. That's why some of them take a weird time to get to the room; there is a timer for the spawns, but they spawn at one of the points and travel.|
Originally Posted by Luna de Nocturne
If I'm not mistaken, the one time I did this SF, some of the ambushes *did* spawn in the main room, not just from the hallway. They just appeared suddenly beside you.
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Traveltime of an ambush is: (whatever the interval between a spawn cycle) + traveltime from the spawn point that was activated.
Essentially, you clear that map's spawn points slightly more than twice (lieuy ambushes are extra). Well, from what I've seen, anyway... haven't tracked down all the lieuy ambush origins, so I'm not certain if they count into the total number of end-room ambushes. Just happens that the ambush spawns all run to the Bison Bathroom and Shower of Doom (with Guns!).
Still trying to figure out the math on the ambush spawn size, though.
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Ah yes, problem with that is the location of the glowie can vary. Sometimes its near the boss, sometimes not. Stealth TP is great on this mish but the back tracking and searching for the glowie may not be.
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Originally Posted by Mr E-Man
I was actually talking about the door portion of the mission here...after we get the key - glowie hunt & boss kill right?
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Ambushes can be bottlenecked, yes. However they will spawn from the sides/thin air around us as well and target any and all of us at once. |
Originally Posted by Mr E-Man
Towards the end, I was in the doorway blocking them a bit, but I think the initial ambushes came from the sides as well...just appearing.
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In fact sometimes not clearing the corridor that leads to the hall that has the door to Reichsman's room can aid in bottlenecking ambushes as the ambushes have to get through all the 5th in that tunnel and it can jam up.
Clear say the west half of it, then if need be double around back to the clear part of the tunnel when leading the AV's in for the kill. That leaves half the tunnel full of 5th and it can aid in jamming ambushes.
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Yeah there is a timer from when Reichsman appears to mission end, but as he can easily turn any character into a greasy smear it is the height of absurdity to hang around in that mish after he spawns when its a Master run. If you are instructed by the leader to bail from the map then bail. Use Ouro, or get to the chopper, doesn't matter which just GET OUT.
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Originally Posted by drogoh
Well he couldn't.
I was under the impression there was some sort of timer for standing around picking Reichsman's nose so I was doing just that. |
I really wanted to join y'all but I've never even done this SF before, so I didn't feel right running in an Mo version. Sorry y'all weren't successful.
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We need to do a vanilla run of this soon E-man! I'd like to do a regular go of it again as well since I've only done it once. <Hint Hint> |
Originally Posted by Roxona
I really wanted to join y'all but I've never even done this SF before, so I didn't feel right running in an Mo version. Sorry y'all weren't successful.
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Originally Posted by Roxona
I really wanted to join y'all but I've never even done this SF before, so I didn't feel right running in an Mo version. Sorry y'all weren't successful.
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Originally Posted by Luna de Nocturne
We need to do a vanilla run of this soon E-man! I'd like to do a regular go of it again as well since I've only done it once. <Hint Hint>
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Sounds fantabulous =)|
Originally Posted by Mr E-Man
OK - how does next Wednesday sound?
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And yes, I'm making up words today!
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Good, I already signed you up... :smirk:
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Originally Posted by Luna de Nocturne
Sounds fantabulous =)
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Excellent :smirk: |
Originally Posted by Mr E-Man
Good, I already signed you up... :smirk:
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Why do I suddenly see four girls in mini-skirts and a four-tone color scheme pushing softdrinks while an infinitely repeating song is playing?
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Originally Posted by Luna de Nocturne
Sounds fantabulous =)
And yes, I'm making up words today! |
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Originally Posted by Myrdinn
Why do I suddenly see four girls in mini-skirts and a four-tone color scheme pushing softdrinks while an infinitely repeating song is playing?
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Honestly, I have a song lyric stuck in my head.... Something by Lucious Jackson (doing a Debbie Harry tribute song) where they are singing "Fantastic Fabuloso" and that's where the word came from!
But be weary of me, I like to make up words
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Originally Posted by Luna de Nocturne
lol,
Honestly, I have a song lyric stuck in my head.... Something by Lucious Jackson (doing a Debbie Harry tribute song) where they are singing "Fantastic Fabuloso" and that's where the word came from! But be weary of me, I like to make up words |
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Aye, looking for a rematch.
Hrm; we might want to pair dom/corrs during a run, for the ambushes if there is not a stalker in the mix. Just one pair, to help a brute/damage dealer with the ambushes (end mission), and have the other five pound away. Not a "always just look for ambushes" but more like "when one hits, take a minute, slide over, pull off the temps, the lock down, and the aoe... heal the brute, switch back to Bison."
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