Just noticing something.... that gt220 only has 48 processors cores versus the gt280's 240.
I haven't been keeping up to date with graphics card advances, but if what I'm seeing on Nvidia's site is any indication, the 220 is the low end of the current generation and probably shouldn't be considered a gaming quality card.
Be well, people of CoH.
So do you think thats the reason for the inconsistent fps?
I mean, i was playing today and it barely dipped below 30 fps, and ive played Champions, and gotten great fps, and then other times, its terrible.
Kinda just bugs me, because i havt been keeping up with GPU's either, and so i figured since it had 1gb of dd3 vid memory that it would tear through CoH.
: /
Flux Tempest-Electric Melee/Willpower
Zaunte's Rage-Claws/Invulnerability
The 220 is a modern low end card. The 1gb of memory isn't going to help you much when the gpu isn't very strong. It has about 1/5th of the power of the higher end cards. Also, what resoloution are you playing at?
CoH is a horribley unoptimized game graphically. It's way more CPU intensive than most games, and is still pretty taxing on the graphics card too. Even though you upgraded to a dual core cpu, if it's on the slower end it could also be holding you back. I remember when I was using my dual core cpu I would OC the sucker up from 2.13ghz to 3.6ghz and see a 10-15FPS increase with the same graphics card (8800GT at the time) at 1920x1200. I would wager that the same 2 year old 8800GT is more powerful than the card you currently have.
In your situation, I would definately say its your video card. Even if you did upgrade to a better one, your cpu could still hold you back (bottleneck) your over all gaming performance at higher resoloutions.
I would also recommend upgrading Vista to Service Pack 2. There are several items in there that have helped with graphics issues for others.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
I actually messed up...I have a quad core core prosessor.
And I also overclocked my card and saw a small increase, but mainly from higher demanding games(Resident Evil 5) where I could play at 1080p with 40-50 fps.
I run CoH at 1080 as well.
So...if i buy a new graphics card, which one should i get, and would I see a huge increase in performance?
Flux Tempest-Electric Melee/Willpower
Zaunte's Rage-Claws/Invulnerability
I wouldn't say it's a non-gaming card. Any Dx9+ discrete card will beat the snot out of the usual Intel integrated graphics nonsense that's targeted at business.
Essentially the GT 220 is a beefed up 9500GT (which is superior to the 8600GT BTW) with 50% more processors running about 10% faster. Yes, it's not a GTX 285 but it's not a slouch either.
Yea, running the game at 1920x1080 is a little much for that card. I'm assuming you are pumping this to a HiDef TV through an HDMI connection? Can't tell since you didn't post a CoHHelper report in either thread (hint, please post one). If it is a HiDef TV you could try 1280x720 and see how well the TV's scaler works (note this is the same resolution that an XBox 360 outputs).
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Yea, I am, lol.
Well, at this point, the fps is tollereable, and i really dont have the money to go out and buy a new card.
But if i were to, would I see a huge increase in performance?
Also, my computer seems to be acting weird. At random times, the display driver will fail and crash back to windows. And like I said earlier in the post, the FPS isnt consistent. One time i play, i will get great fps, and another time, ill get terrible fps, and the only way to fix it, is to restart my computer.
Any ideas?
Flux Tempest-Electric Melee/Willpower
Zaunte's Rage-Claws/Invulnerability
I suggest scrubbing the driver out and try a slightly older one and see what happens.
I am running a P4 and a 7900GS and while I do not have any troubles playing on maxed out settings, I will say that when I updated my video card driver last week I have seen some random oddities happening. I went back to an older driver and everything was great again.
(I play on a good ol crt monitor running at 1600 resolution)
Hmm, thats interesting.
Were you experiencing similar symptoms?
Flux Tempest-Electric Melee/Willpower
Zaunte's Rage-Claws/Invulnerability
Still no CoHHelper output?
Ok, good luck.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
CoH helper...
---System information gathered by CoH Helper version 0.1.1.8---
DxDiag gathered at September 17, 2009 02:51 (-04:00)
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.090302-1506)
System Manufacturer: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
System Model: CG5270
BIOS: BIOS Date: 05/12/09 10:15:00 Ver: 08.00.14
Central Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8300 @ 2.50GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.5GHz
Memory: 8190MB
.Net Memory Report: 6265MB out of 8190MB available
Page File: 14752MB (1679MB currently in use)
C Drive: (ST3750528AS ATA Device) 242884MB out of 286165MB (84%) free
D Drive: (ST3750528AS ATA Device) 418888MB out of 418992MB (99%) free
E Drive: (ATAPI DVD A DH20A6S ATA Device) zero-size drive
Windows directory location: C:\Windows
DirectX: DirectX 10
DirectX Diag version: 6.00.6001.18000 (64-bit version)
Display Notes: No problems found.
Sound Notes: No problems found.
No problems found.
No problems found.
No problems found.
No problems found.
No problems found.
No problems found.
Input Notes: No problems found.
Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor's Max Resolution: (blank)
Video Device Name: NVIDIA GeForce GT 220
Manufacturer / Chip: NVIDIA / GeForce GT 220
Video Memory: 4078 MB
Driver Version: 8.16.0011.9062
Driver Date: 8/17/2009 12:57:00 AM
Driver Language: English
Sound Device Description: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Driver File: RTKVHD64.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5783
Driver Date: 2/3/2009 1:23:18 PM
Sound Device Description: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Driver File: RTKVHD64.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5783
Driver Date: 2/3/2009 1:23:18 PM
Sound Device Description: Digital Output Device (HDMI) (High Definition Audio Device)
Driver File: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.5840.16387
Driver Date: 11/2/2006 1:28:10 AM
Sound Device Description: Digital Output Device (HDMI) (3- High Definition Audio Device)
Driver File: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.5840.16387
Driver Date: 11/2/2006 1:28:10 AM
Sound Device Description: Realtek Digital Output(Optical) (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Driver File: RTKVHD64.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5783
Driver Date: 2/3/2009 1:23:18 PM
Sound Device Description: Digital Output Device (HDMI) (4- High Definition Audio Device)
Driver File: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.5840.16387
Driver Date: 11/2/2006 1:28:10 AM
Sound Device Description: Digital Output Device (HDMI) (2- High Definition Audio Device)
Driver File: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.5840.16387
Driver Date: 11/2/2006 1:28:10 AM
WMI Information
Motherboard Manufacturer: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Motherboard Model: (empty)
Motherboard Product: CG5270
Motherboard Version: Rev X.0x
BIOS Manufacturer: American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS Name: BIOS Date: 05/12/09 10:15:00 Ver: 08.00.14
BIOS Version: _ASUS_ - 5000912
BIOS Release: 20090512000000.000000+000
Registry Information for Current User
Resolution: 1920x1080
3D Resolution: 1920x1080 (Not using renderscale)
Full Screen: Yes
Maximized: No
Screen Position: 0, 0
Refresh Rate: 60Hz
Vertical Sync Enabled: No
Physics Quality: Very High
Maximum Particles: 50000
Max Particle Fill? 10.000
Physics Card Enabled: No
Anti-aliasing: 4x
Anisotropic Filtering: 16x
Texture LOD Bias: Smooth
Water Effects: High Quality
Bloom: 0.833 (turned on)
Depth of Field Enabled: Yes
Desaturation Effects (Sepia) Enabled: Yes
Shader Detail: High
World Texture Level: Very High
Character Texture Level: Very High
World Detail Level (Vis_Scale): 2.000
Entity Detail Level: 2.000
Shadows Enabled: Yes
Gamma Correction: 1.000
Geometry Buffers (VBOs) Enabled: Yes
Suppression of Extra Player FX Enabled: No
Suppression of FX When Camera Close Enabled: No
Close Suppression Range: 3.000
Show Advertisements: Yes
Audio Mode: Performance
3D Audio: No
FX Sound Volume: 1.000
Music Sound Volume: 0.600
Show Advanced Graphics Options: Yes
Overall Graphics Quality: 0.600
Reverse Mouse Buttons: No
Save Login Username: Yes
Transfer Rate: 966908 bytes/second
Current Game Version: 1600.20090902.4T2
Installation Directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\City of Heroes
Mod files in the Data directory
No modifications found
Flux Tempest-Electric Melee/Willpower
Zaunte's Rage-Claws/Invulnerability
Anyone have anymore guidance?
Flux Tempest-Electric Melee/Willpower
Zaunte's Rage-Claws/Invulnerability
Update Vista to Service Pack 2. There are several updates in it that help resolve various issues.
Also, you might try to find some updated drivers for the audio. As odd as it seems, I've seen updated audio drivers help with problems in seemingly unrelated areas.
I've seen odd issues with several products from Stardock, including the ObjectDock that you have and many of them have been resolved by shutting off the program. I know that their WindowBlinds will cause problems with CoH unless you exclude CoH from the skinning that WB does. These two programs may use pieces of the same code, being from the same company, and those code pieces may be what is at fault.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
Ok, I uninstalled object dock, updated to SP2(i believe) I had a pretty hefty update, and my fps seems to be better.
Somehow, my video drivers were washed, and i took this opportunity to roll back my driver as stated above, to maybe see if this helped, and now the colors on my monitor are odd. WAY too bright, and this is after installing display drivers and such.
I played Counterstrike Source, and I was getting about 65-70 fps. Thats about what i was getting before.
Flux Tempest-Electric Melee/Willpower
Zaunte's Rage-Claws/Invulnerability
Hey guys, im kind of hoping you all can help me.
I seem to be having a problem with FPS(Frames per Second)...and im not sure why.
I just got a brand new Asus, 8 gigs of ram, dual core 2.4 ghz processor, and a nvidia gt220 GPU (1 gig of dd3 video memory).
Im currently getting around 30 fps with settings maxed, and sometimes it dips down into the teens when in combat. Is that about right for my computer's stats??
Also, sometimes ill boot up the game, and my fps will be single digits and low teens until i restart my computer(weird)
I consider myself pretty computer savvy, but im stumped, i have no idea whats wrong
I even overclocked my graphics card
Heres my HijackThis...
Heres my HiJackthis...
Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 12:06:56 AM, on 9/16/2009
Platform: Windows Vista SP1 (WinNT 6.00.1905)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 (7.00.6001.18226)
Boot mode: Normal
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C:\Program Files (x86)\ASUS\EPU-4 Engine\FourEngine.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqtra08.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\WinZip\WZQKPICK.EXE
C:\Program Files\ASUS\AI Manager\AsShellApplication.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\Stardock\ObjectDock\ObjectDock.exe
C:\Program Files\Razer\Arctosa\razerhid.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\HP\HP Software Update\hpwuSchd2.exe
C:\Program Files\Razer\Arctosa\razertra.exe
C:\Program Files\ASUS\AI Manager\Page\iGear\GearHelp.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqSTE08.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqbam08.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqgpc01.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\EVGA Precision\EVGAPrecision.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\EVGA Precision\Bundle\OSDServer\RTSS.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\HP\Digital Imaging\smart web printing\hpswp_clipbook.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\City of Heroes\CohUpdater.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\Trend Micro\HijackThis\HijackThis.exe
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O2 - BHO: Windows Live Toolbar Helper - {E15A8DC0-8516-42A1-81EA-DC94EC1ACF10} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Live\Toolbar\wltcore.dll
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O13 - Gopher Prefix:
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O23 - Service: @dfsrres.dll,-101 (DFSR) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\DFSR.exe (file missing)
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O23 - Service: @comres.dll,-2797 (MSDTC) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\msdtc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\System32\netlogon.dll,-102 (Netlogon) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: Performance Service (nTuneService) - NVIDIA - C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\nTune\nTuneService.exe
O23 - Service: NVIDIA Display Driver Service (nvsvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\nvvsvc.exe (file missing)
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Flux Tempest-Electric Melee/Willpower
Zaunte's Rage-Claws/Invulnerability