Plan for respec

Torroes_Prime · 09-08-2009 10:04 AM

Okay, I've got a 50 War Mace/Will power brute and I'm planning a respec on it. Mainly to drop powers that I don't need anymore, powers like focused accuracy... eh lemme try this a different way:

Here's the current build:

And here's my planned build:

Any thoughts or suggestions? Builds aren't exactly my strong point so I'm always looking for feed back and advice on them

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Amir · 09-08-2009 10:59 AM

It looks ok except, I'm sure you want to get mind over body sooner and put more slots in it as its one of your main toggles. Also, I hear rise to the challenge's -acc is pretty good out the box... I think I would change the slots on it to more focus on regen since that is one of the key powers in willpower I'm told.

Strength of will is no big deal I suppose, it looks ok, not my preferrable slotting but everyone is different.

FitzSimmons · 09-08-2009 11:03 AM

Instead of posting pictures post the build. Go to import/export and just export the data chunk.

Torroes_Prime · 09-08-2009 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FitzSimmons

Instead of posting pictures post the build. Go to import/export and just export the data chunk.

ya mean this?

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I donno what got borked with mids on my system but that's what it exports as it's Data chunk. I already tried pasting the data chunk. Doesn't work. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling mids twice.

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FitzSimmons · 09-08-2009 11:37 AM

Sorta. That data chunk isn't right though. It's way too large.

Torroes_Prime · 09-08-2009 01:10 PM

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Sorta. That data chunk isn't right though. It's way too large.

thank you. I'm so glad you can clear that up for me.

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Clouded · 09-08-2009 01:28 PM

Take my advice for what its worth...

1. I slot RttC; 3 Numina (Heal, Heal/End, Heal/Recharge), 2 Dark Watcher's (Tohit/End, Chance for Slow) and 1 Heal IO. No matter how you slot it, you shoudl invest in at least 2 Heal IOs.

2. Fast Healing is over slotted. You're probably going for bonuses but I really think you'd gain for survivability taking 2 slots out and putting them into RttC. I have FH slotted Numina Unique, Numina Heal, Numina Heal/End and Regen Tissue +Regen

3. Take 2 slots from CJ and put them in Mind Over Body. I think this toggle could use some more loving. Look at Titanium Coating for +HP or Aegis for +F/C Def

4. Another Heal IO in Health wouldn't hurt.

5. Drop Acro for something useful.

Torroes_Prime · 09-08-2009 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Clouded

Take my advice for what its worth...
5. Drop Acro for something useful.

any suggestions? I originally took Web envelop to get Focused accruacy cause I was having a hard time with hitting targets that were +2 or better or EB/Av class. Since I started getting set bonuses I've found I don't use focused accuracy. So I'm going to drop that.

I'm on the fence about taking Web Envelope. It's a descent single target immob, but the only things I don't kill in 3 hits are Bosses with Immob protection, EBs and AVs which Web Envelope isn't going to help me deal with anyway. So that's 2 powers I can drop, sadly the game won't lets me skip taking powers at those levels.

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3. Take 2 slots from CJ and put them in Mind Over Body. I think this toggle could use some more loving. Look at Titanium Coating for +HP or Aegis for +F/C Def

I gotta ask why. In my current build I barely use Mind over body as is. The only time I use it if I'm facing an AV or if I've managed to agro a 8-man teams worth of baddies.

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Clouded · 09-08-2009 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Torroes_Prime

any suggestions? I originally took Web envelop to get Focused accruacy cause I was having a hard time with hitting targets that were +2 or better or EB/Av class. Since I started getting set bonuses I've found I don't use focused accuracy. So I'm going to drop that.

I'm on the fence about taking Web Envelope. It's a descent single target immob, but the only things I don't kill in 3 hits are Bosses with Immob protection, EBs and AVs which Web Envelope isn't going to help me deal with anyway. So that's 2 powers I can drop, sadly the game won't lets me skip taking powers at those levels.

I was sorta joking. If it were me, then I might pick up Swift or Superspeed for added movement.

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Originally Posted by Torroes_Prime

I gotta ask why. In my current build I barely use Mind over body as is. The only time I use it if I'm facing an AV or if I've managed to agro a 8-man teams worth of baddies.

Even if that's the case it's still vastly superior to Combat Jumping, even for just an IO Mule. You'll have to confirm but you'll probably get more HP/sec by slotting MoB with Titanium Coating (3 slot) then you would with Serendipities small regen and +HP bonuses.

I team quite often and with I16, when I'm not teaming I'll have the difficulty set for 8 player team. So building towards max survivability has always been a trend of mine which is why I recommend slotting MoB over CJ.

Torroes_Prime · 09-08-2009 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clouded

I was sorta joking. If it were me, then I might pick up Swift or Superspeed for added movement.

Even if that's the case it's still vastly superior to Combat Jumping, even for just an IO Mule. You'll have to confirm but you'll probably get more HP/sec by slotting MoB with Titanium Coating (3 slot) then you would with Serendipities small regen and +HP bonuses.

I team quite often and with I16, when I'm not teaming I'll have the difficulty set for 8 player team. So building towards max survivability has always been a trend of mine which is why I recommend slotting MoB over CJ.

hmmm, well I've got a second build and 8 respec tokens. I guess it's time to burn one of 'em. I'll try slotting up MoB and see what kinda difference I get versus Combat Jumping. Thanks for the advice.

EDIT: Would someone tell me what "snarky" means?

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Clouded · 09-09-2009 04:42 AM

It usually refers to someone being rudely sarcastic or disrespectful with another poster.

I don't remember being snarky, why do you ask?

Torroes_Prime · 09-09-2009 08:05 AM

someone posted a negative feed back saying "being snarky in a thread where you're looking for advice..." well you get the idea. I read the comment and was like "Okay, what does 'snarky' mean?" Anyway, I freely admit to my own obnoxiousness and will own up to the annoyance in this thread that probably encited my 'snarky' reaction.

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Clouded · 09-09-2009 08:23 AM

I've seen much worse snark than what you've posted here. I gave you some positive rep to help offset the negative. Good luck with the respec!

Nicro · 09-09-2009 07:39 PM

Here is the data chunk for the first build.
Couldn't find the second one in your post.

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Here are a few tips.

1. All of your toggles and autos (except HPT) should only have 3 or 4 slots in them, any more is overkill because the bulk of your end consumption comes from your attacks.

2. Drop Focused Accuracy and pick up Heightened Senses, it provides more defense than Weave and CJ combined to exotic damage types and a decent amount to Smashing/Lethal.

3. I highly recommend slotting your attacks with 4 Kinetic Combats (less the proc) and the quad and Acc/EndRedux/Rech Mako IOs for all of your attacks. Your Defense will improve substantially and your endurance usage be a lot better.

Torroes_Prime · 09-10-2009 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicro

Here is the data chunk for the first build.
Couldn't find the second one in your post.

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Here are a few tips.

1. All of your toggles and autos (except HPT) should only have 3 or 4 slots in them, any more is overkill because the bulk of your end consumption comes from your attacks.

2. Drop Focused Accuracy and pick up Heightened Senses, it provides more defense than Weave and CJ combined to exotic damage types and a decent amount to Smashing/Lethal.

3. I highly recommend slotting your attacks with 4 Kinetic Combats (less the proc) and the quad and Acc/EndRedux/Rech Mako IOs for all of your attacks. Your Defense will improve substantially and your endurance usage be a lot better.

Hey Nicro, appreciate the effort of finding the data chunk for my build (How did you find it anyway?) but it doesn't do me any good. I already have the builds laid out in Mids. It's just that for some reason Mids, or at least my particular copy of it, won't export a usable data chunk.

I am going to drop Focused Accuracy. I'm debating keeping Web envelope. It's a decent single target immob, but the only stuff it can affect are stuff that I'll be break in 2-3 hits anyway.

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