Quick Guide for All Scrapper ITF

An alternative for the fluffies is to send a DM/Inv with a tray full of oranges, and let her tank all the fluffies.

If you have 7 scrappers wailing at Rommy in the meantime, he should go down so quick it'll work fine.

By the way, when soloing on a team size of two, the spawner fluffy only spawns a couple of minions that go down faster than a cheap ******. I am very annoyed at that. I may end up having to use nukes, having only 4 targets for Soul Drain and Invincibility (which leaves actin 3% short of the cap for Negative Energy defense) is very sucktastic :-/

I was on that all scrapper run, in fact I happened to be leading it (although with 6 scrappers "leader" just means I had to be annoyedby going back to see Imperious)

There were 2 Claws/Regens (one being me,)

2 SRs (Bill Z and my wife's DB/SR)

2 Spines/WPs

I tanked the autohit for quite a while. Note to regens: if you're going to tank the autohit, make sure you have plenty of recharge, it eventually found a hole in my heal cycle and killed me. Had I brough my BS/DA I could have tanked it all day.

Memorable quote from that run:

[NPC] We're under attack
[Player] Really, ya think?
[Player] "Hey, there's only six....oh sh#%"

Was a good time.

Edit: Also...we ran it on Unyielding

All right fellow scrappers, listen up.

*Taps microphone*

(If it's too much of a hijack, Bill, I can take it somewhere else )

http://www.walkiry.com/CoH/Actin%20S...ITF/index.html

So, Actin managed to finish her solo ITF. Things used:

16 minutes of the wedding band.
8 large orange inspirations (actually, used 9 inspirations but two were small and I used them at the same time, hence the equivalent of 8).

16 minutes is what Actin needed to down the autohit nictus, after which inspirations or temps were not needed. Well, I lie, I used one purple and one green that I got as drops during the carnage when I got a bad cascade defense failure Actually, Actin's really not that amazing in the damage department, she's just very good at survival, so these ramblings should work for other DM/Inv scrappers with softcapped defenses against the attacks used in this encounter, and only the vanilla resistance totals for negative energy (23.3% or thereabouts). If yours does more damage, then it's even easier.

Anyway, maths time. Wedding band = 30% resistance. Large orange = 20% resistance. 8 minutes of inspirations and 8 minutes inspiration-less works out as 40% resistance on average to stay put. I used the inspiration to regain HP (usually in the form of breaking even or gaining a bit until Dull Pain was up again, at which point Actin filled up real fast), and without it Actin's HP bar went slowly down due to constant chipping away. Also, attack chain was broken mercilessly to heal more often with Siphon Life - whenever it was available.

So, in order for Actin to win with her current capabilities, she needs 40% extra negative energy resistance, or equivalent, for 16 minutes.

2 large oranges give that, but given the size of the tray, she can only keep that up for 10 minutes. Using only 1 inspiration at a time, that's 20 minutes.

Need 16 minutes of 20% resistance or equivalent from somewhere that is not inspirations!

Options:

- 5% from empowerment buffs.
- 2.25% (or 3.75%) from Cimeroran (Cimeroran Citizen) day job, ironically enough.
- 6.26% from two partial sets of Scirocco's, at the cost of either a little s/l defense (1.88%) or 5% recharge (respec). An extra 1.88% resistance could be brought in at the cost of the 5% recharge by putting a partial Enfeebled Operation in Midnight Grasp (I can hear you cringing from here!). All together it's 8.1% extra resistance according to Mids'. Still not enough for 20% when combined with the other available buffs. Three sets of Scirocco could be brought in theoretically: Shadow Maul, Dark Consumption and Soul Drain.

Which leaves:

- Echo Wedding band, 30% for 5 minutes, "rechargeable" (but only usable once per try!).
- Bionuke. 150% damage buff and 800% regeneration for 5 minutes could mean shaving time from the total requirement and less need for oranges during that time. I'm confident that Echo Wedding Band + Bionuke won't need oranges at all. That'd mean 15 minutes of 40%+ resistance or equivalent, and with the extra damage buff should be enough to down the nictus without needing anything other than the inspirations and those two temp powers.

Other options:

- Mystic Fortune: There must be one with resistances somewhere, and they last 20 minutes.
- ???

I considered resetting the mission to try any of these options without having to recruit people to start the TF again, but I've been at this for quite a bit now and my eyes are starting to bleed when I look at the romans. Come issue 16, with extra spawn sizes and possibly bringing down the level of the AVs to 50, the problem of negative energy defense will solve itself, so I'm not worried about that one (notice the cyclops I dragged in to the fight! That puts Actin barely at the softcap, but Rommy debuffs defense a lot when he hits, Actin has enough Lethal defense not to worry about cascading when only facing him, but makes a big opening for the healing nictus).

I'm also wondering if an Inv/DM tank would be able to pull this off. He'd get the necessary edge in survivability (really, all things considered Actin's really not that far!), but can he get the damage out with enough fluffies being spawned?

On my Inv/DB tanker as a level 48 taking on Rommie + all 3 fluffies + a bunch of romans wasn't a problem for a few minutes ; I think a level 50 Inv/DM would have much higher survivability and wouldn't have trouble handling this indefinitely (as long as Siphon Life would be used).

IOed out Inv scrappers are so tough in the right situations you might think they aren't that far from Inv tankers... In fact they are very, very far, it's just that the levels of mitigation we're talking about in either case are so ridiculously high it's not that obvious to see.

Invul tankers have about 35% resistance (38% with Shield Wall), higher HP, higher heal, 90% S/L so they shrug off romans and Rommie, it's really more than enough. Trust me, having played both there is really no comparison between an invul scrapper and an invul tanker.

My BS/DA scrapper has 47% or so resistance to negative energy. Given your numbers that SHOULD be enough to tank the autohit practically indefinitely. I can probably crank my N. Energy resistance to 60% or higher if I specifically build for it, but I might end up gimping my build otherwise if I do so.

Hey Bill, would you be down to do it again after my BS/DA's build is done?

I'm working on a softcapped DA build, he'll be vulnerable to cascading defense failure due to lack of defense debuff resistance, but he has ~40% smash/lethal resistance and the best self-heal in the game, so I should be okay.

I'm pretty geeked about that toon's build and I want to throw all the challenges at him I can, just to see how good he really is. RWZ Challenge, AV soloing, ridiculous overwhelming odds situations, you know, standard scrapper stuff

On weekends, I'm always up for an all scrapper ITF. However, I have a request:

Can we make them all scrapper/brute ITFs? My DM/WP brute is starting to shape up nicely.

Sure!

It's gonna be a few weeks before my BS/DA is done (barring some extremely lucky drops). And I have to wait for I16 to get the freespec and access to Physical Perfection to finish up the build anyway. So that gives you time to whip your brute into shape.

Might do an all melee ITF as well (mostly so I can bring my DM/Nin stalker)

Yea, but then the <smirk> tanks will want in on it.



/I keeed

Two questions:

1) Is anyone running these things on Champion?
2) Would an all-Blaster ITF (no nukes or Shivans) be possible?

A blaster has soloed the ITF with insps and possibly temps, two or more blasters should be able to do it without temps.

If you don run one, Eva... get video. I'd love to watch that and bet yall would rock through it.

I don't think AVs resist resistance debuffs at all.

One option is to snipe / shoot the nictus from long range, and defeat them this way, albeit slowly, without Romulus reacting.

DP's -regen is enhanced by enhancements, so if it's slotted for +95% heal it's almost as good as LR (except it recharges a bit slower).

If you're going to fight Romulus though, the regen isn't likely to be a big deal with blaster DPS, especially multiple blasters. The heals are more tricky unless most people have good defense.