Ice/Axe help


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My Ice/Axe just hit 29 (I think) and I've been soloing a lot, suffering the usual tanker problem of not dealing quite enough damage for my liking. Survivability is no problem, I barely use Hoarfrost, and I've started herding entire floors so Energy Absorbtion works as well as possible.

I've been complaining on JFA and hear that if I properly slot EA, I don't need Stamina anymore. Is there truth to this statement? I'm gonna do it on a second build just to be sure, for exemping and all that, but if I can respec out of Stamina and pick up more attacks (hello Whirling Axe!) and Icicles, will Energy Absorbtion, slotted for recharge, suffice for my End needs?


 

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I doubt that's true, my ice tank sucks down end like nobody's business, I'm sure with proper IO slotting someone would come up and tell you differently.

However the problem for me isn't running out of end, as EA is up often enough (30 secs currently ). Just alot of times when fighting I get to 1/4 of my blue bar left before I can use it again, I doubt i'd have that much left if I didn't have stamina.

Granted my attacks (Dark Melee) are currently slotted SO's so this may be solved with IO slotting, but I still believe stamina is a great power for even toons with end recovery powers. Sidenote: I did find myself not needing DM's Dark Consumption power as I rarely used it.



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Originally Posted by Prof_Backfire View Post
I've been complaining on JFA and hear that if I properly slot EA, I don't need Stamina anymore. Is there truth to this statement? I'm gonna do it on a second build just to be sure, for exemping and all that, but if I can respec out of Stamina and pick up more attacks (hello Whirling Axe!) and Icicles, will Energy Absorbtion, slotted for recharge, suffice for my End needs?
It is more possible for some people than others. I could do it but can you do it? Its not going to be just a case of build right for a low attack chain eps; then use EA often at the start of a fight whilst there is 3 to 6 foes in melee; or whilst in melee with AVs you can have minions to leech off and left alive as everyone makes sure they ST the AV or for the fact you may have a best mate who is a kin. If I couldn't do it I wouldn't expect everyone else not to do it.

There is some truth to the statement but it could come down to more than one thing..

I soloed Heracles EB with a Staminaless Ice/Ice. Took ages.


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Originally Posted by Shannon_EU View Post
I soloed Heracles EB with a Staminaless Ice/Ice. Took ages.
My guess is that it would be a lot easier for an Ice/Ice than an Ice/Axe to go Staminaless. Leveling my Ice/Axe up to Stamina was the single worst endurance experience of my CoH career, and even now with Stamina and EA (EA isn't fully slotted yet, granted) I have to watch my blue bar.

I imagine you could *do* it, with lots of expensive IOs, recovery bonuses, and very aggressive end reduction slotting, but I don't think it would be worth it.


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I see. Yeah, Axe eats end like nobody's business, at least the damage is pretty nice. I'll just have to find teams and/or just wait it out.

Playing this has made me want an Ice Brute, they'd be awesome. To heck with slowing fury, when you can herd half the map and recharge your end...


 

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I have a 50 ice/wm, currently running in SOs. I don't have end issues really, but I do have my attacks slotted with one end redux each, and I have stam. Without stam I would probably be ok if i slotted my attacks more aggressively with end redux, but my damage would suffer.

Is it possible to run ice/axe without stam, yeah, but it probably wouldn't be worth it.


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