Ice/Kinetics first Controller


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This is a build i have just fiddled with on mids anyone tell me if it looks any good. i know its not slotted but i have no idea what i am doing with enhancements i usually just put them on and hope for the best

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Nyoka: Level 50 Mutation Controller
Primary Power Set: Ice Control
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Ice Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Block of Ice -- Empty(A), Empty(17), Empty(19), Empty(19)
Level 1: Transfusion -- Empty(A), Empty(7), Empty(13), Empty(15), Empty(15), Empty(17)
Level 2: Frostbite -- Empty(A), Empty(3), Empty(3), Empty(5), Empty(5), Empty(7)
Level 4: Siphon Power -- Empty(A)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- Empty(A), Empty(40)
Level 8: Shiver -- Empty(A), Empty(9), Empty(9), Empty(11), Empty(11), Empty(13)
Level 10: Siphon Speed -- Empty(A), Empty(40), Empty(43), Empty(46), Empty(48)
Level 12: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 14: Health -- Empty(A), Empty(34), Empty(37), Empty(40)
Level 16: Ice Slick -- Empty(A), Empty(27), Empty(31), Empty(34), Empty(34)
Level 18: Flash Freeze -- Empty(A), Empty(23), Empty(23), Empty(27)
Level 20: Stamina -- Empty(A), Empty(21), Empty(21)
Level 22: Speed Boost -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Hasten -- Empty(A), Empty(25), Empty(25)
Level 26: Boxing -- Empty(A), Empty(50), Empty(50), Empty(50)
Level 28: Tough -- Empty(A), Empty(29), Empty(29)
Level 30: Weave -- Empty(A), Empty(31), Empty(31)
Level 32: Jack Frost -- Empty(A), Empty(33), Empty(33), Empty(33)
Level 35: Transference -- Empty(A), Empty(36), Empty(36), Empty(36), Empty(37), Empty(37)
Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- Empty(A), Empty(39), Empty(39), Empty(39)
Level 41: Hibernate -- Empty(A), Empty(42), Empty(42), Empty(42), Empty(43), Empty(43)
Level 44: Frost Breath -- Empty(A), Empty(45), Empty(45), Empty(45), Empty(46), Empty(46)
Level 47: Frozen Armor -- Empty(A), Empty(48), Empty(48)
Level 49: Inertial Reduction -- Empty(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment


 

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I keep trying to do a version based on what you would do and what I would do and there becomes a lack of power slots. I would look at Arctic Air versus Shiver since you'll be in melee anyway. You want Glacier over Flash Freeze. I would really reconsider the Fighting pool and go with the Leadership pool instead. Level 49 is a long haul to go with just Siphon Speed as your getto travel power.


 

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Originally Posted by Sionn View Post
This is a build i have just fiddled with on mids anyone tell me if it looks any good.
It's hard to tell what looks good without your even general enhancement ideas. /kins are able to underslot recharge (in short recharge powers) and eventually end redux compared to other toons. A few comments:


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Level 1: Block of Ice -- Empty(A), Empty(17), Empty(19), Empty(19)
Ice/Kins are relatively light on defense compared to many other troller combos, particularly without Glacier and Arctic Air. BoI should have 6 slots, frankenslotted for acc/hold/dmg/endrdx/rech.

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Level 2: Frostbite -- Empty(A), Empty(3), Empty(3), Empty(5), Empty(5), Empty(7)
Frostbite will *not* need its slots early. Acc and Endrdx (maybe two Acc) should be enough til you get to epic power levels.

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Level 4: Siphon Power -- Empty(A)
Early on this will be an end sucker, because it recharges fast, and you click it.

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Level 6: Combat Jumping -- Empty(A), Empty(40)
CJ does not need extra slots unless you're using interesting IOs--and it can use a lot. Karma -kb heavily recommended. Unbounded Leap stealth also highly useful here. All the special def IOs with the exception of the Gift of the Ancients are good in here.

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Level 8: Shiver -- Empty(A), Empty(9), Empty(9), Empty(11), Empty(11), Empty(13)
Overslotted unless you're going for a whole slow set's IO bonuses. One Acc will probably do.

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Level 10: Siphon Speed -- Empty(A), Empty(40), Empty(43), Empty(46), Empty(48)
Good slots, but a priority, not lvl 40+ additions. 2 acc 3 recharge.

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Level 14: Health -- Empty(A), Empty(34), Empty(37), Empty(40)
Health doesn't really need to be slotted unless you have Heal uniques. Those aren't even that valuable on a /kin once you reach 35.

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Level 16: Ice Slick -- Empty(A), Empty(27), Empty(31), Empty(34), Empty(34)
Two or three slots. Maybe four if you put a range in there (which can be quite handy). Start with 2 recharge. One additional recharge will probably only get you 3 or 4 seconds (with Hasten/Siphon Speed up)

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Level 18: Flash Freeze -- Empty(A), Empty(23), Empty(23), Empty(27)
As remarked above. Pretty inferior to Glacier. (Super Jump here?)

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Level 26: Boxing -- Empty(A), Empty(50), Empty(50), Empty(50)
Level 28: Tough -- Empty(A), Empty(29), Empty(29)
Level 30: Weave -- Empty(A), Empty(31), Empty(31)
The only reason to take these is if you build for softcap (or near) defense. Building to get great defense requires a lot of sacrifices and careful planning. (Adding Weave to the Ice Armor below can get you pretty substantial smashing/lethal def, though.) Boxing is almost always a waste of slots (it can be a set mule sometimes), though taken at a lower level can help soloing (though it's no Air Superiority). Congratulations, you have three new powers and 7 slots!


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Level 41: Hibernate -- Empty(A), Empty(42), Empty(42), Empty(42), Empty(43), Empty(43)
One slot will do.

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Level 44: Frost Breath -- Empty(A), Empty(45), Empty(45), Empty(45), Empty(46), Empty(46)
Level 47: Frozen Armor -- Empty(A), Empty(48), Empty(48)
Level 49: Inertial Reduction -- Empty(A)
I would grab Ice Storm. It is deliriously damaging (am not sure if Fulcrum Shift buffs this "pet," which would of course make it better) and critters on Ice Slick stay in it.

I find IR inferior to SJ, because its cast time is way longer, it costs more end, and nearly everybody has travel powers by 28 (or 49).

If you plan on soloing at all, pick up Chillblain initially instead of Frostbite. You can vetspec or freespec into Frostbite when you hit the epic levels and your attack chain is fuller.


 

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I'm going to have to agree that with Ice/Kin, arctic air is the better choice. Plus, you have the ability to put 3 procs in it.


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