MM + PvP Advice


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I really fancy a PvP mastermind, had one before long ago, (thugs/dark-lvl34) but I fancy getting one for RV.

So, i am decided already that I am going to be Robotics.
Need a hand with secondaries, at the moment I am wavering between /Traps, /Forcefield or /Poison...

Also needing some advice on Patron, but so far I'm liking Mace Mastery.

Can anyone advice me as well, with BG mode is DEF or RES a better way to go,? Thinking about taking Tough+Weave to stack with either epic shield and or Bubble in secondary and from protector bots.

Advise pl0x -


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Hmm for secondary i would consider pain or poison, pain MM's are very hard to kill. Storm is also a good set. But the debuffs from poison are just awesome, for dueling i would definately go poison but seeing as you said personally i would go pain, you're going to need some outside survivability on an MM in a zone. Lots of tanks and scrappers will go for you.

Leadership is an obvious choice to go for and mace mastery is probably the best patron for MM, that -jump power can really mess someone up when they getting attacked by your minions. I think mace mastery has KO blow now too? Pretty handy power to help finish your target.

As for travel powers i would take Super jump or maybe teleport (and fly or even just hover?), i wouldn't recomend SS on an MM 'cause it's too fast and you will get too far from your minions then BAM! a blaster just pwnt you .

Im not so experienced with MM's so i'm not sure if BG mode is either res of def..i think it just makes it so your minions take 'x' amount of the damage you recieve so i wouldn't bother with fighting pool.

As for IO'ing i'd try get as much HP bonuses as possible, MM got way too low hp slotting 3 soulbound allegience in 2 of your pets will give a nice boost i should think..among other sets ofc .

Hope this helped..Gamete.


 

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Sure I can help you out - it's spellt "advice"


 

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Sure I can help you out - it's spellt "advice"

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Tell you what, i'll help you out shall I?

“advice” is the noun, “advise” is the verb.

Just incase that isn't clear for you i'll write it simply.

Psiko's advice was not helpful at all. So I would advise him to keep his comments to himself in the future.

I would have thought that the thread title would have been a clue.

/em grammerpwned


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Personally I prefer Poison over Forcefield as a Mastermind secondary, but with Bots Forcefield works well as you can stack the Defenses and the toggle Repel is handy with ranged pets. It depends on which playstyle you like. Debuff till the (single) target is weak as an Underling or buff your strengths for synergy. I'm not very familiar with Traps in PvP and all I really know about it is that it can be a little slow, but the Forcefield Generator's quite good.

Bodyguard mode practically increases your hitpoints by a large amount, so I'd say Res or Def are personal choice which would be based on which Secondary and Patron pool you grab. Mace Mastery has all the useful powers for PvP and, because of it's +Defense shield, would steer the Secondary towards Forcefields.

Tough and Weave aren't bad ideas if you go with Forcefields (and to a lesser extent, Traps) as it's fairly low end usage (use buffs, turn on toggles and you're done) but I don't think those powers are useful enough without something to stack them with, so a no go if you use Poison.

Hope that helps.


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Before all: plz DONNA don't grammerpwn me, i am italian and so i'll write many errors during this thread, but i'll give u few advices.
some considerations:
-I am a pure fan of PVP.
-I am a pure fan of MMs.
-In this game ther's a really poor pvp community
-MMs can be beast in it.

I made myself 5 MMs all above lev 41, some to 50, in the last 3 weeks: now u can lev from 1 to 50 in 3 days with the right missions.

I had a BOT/FF and in pvp it has some problems, like:
- u really need a HEAL from healing pool.
- u cannot dish out a good dmg to kill regenners.

I had a NECRO/STORM and its damage is really amazing, like twice as BOTS, u can pvp with this AT, but u need to get HEAL aswell.

I had a NJN/DARK and i can sat this combo is a monster of pvp, u will have an amazing dmg output, a great pet debuffer and healer and u wont need HEAL form the healing pool.

Now i play MERC/PAIN, and this is EASY MODE ON, u can heal you and your hench like crazy, you can debuff AOE, u can power up your commando pretty well.
i have not tryed this in pvp yet, but in pve its for sure the king of all combinations.
Perhaps the hig resist to lethal from player will decrease the dmg output quite well, i dunno, but with achille's heel and touch of lady grey slotted in TIER 1 and TIER 2 pets you will have no problems in dmg output.

i also have a THUG/POIS but havent tryed in pvp at all...perhaps its the best one.

so my advices r:
as secondary DON't choose FF, i LOVE DARK/PAIN (you really need heals in pvp) where dark will gives you more strategies of fighting and PAIN will transfor you into a semi-unstoppable machine.
as patron: i tryed em all and i find i love MAKO! good hold! and cool effects (also resist to ice is really good in pvp since i found many ice users), but MACE is good if u take FF for the +def of the armour.

Important to know: always slot in your pets ACHILLE'S HEEL and at least 1 kind of DMG PROC in T1 or T2 henchmans (the soldiers with lady grey proc will proc really often because ALL of their attacks are -def and so you can transform a weak henc in a good one).

If u really love bots btw try em with DARK/PAIN or TRAPS/POIS where the first 2 will allow you more survivability and the second one will allow you more single target dmg (STORM is the king vs meele btw due to the self buff -30% to hit to anyone near)


 

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Ok so here is my 1st attempt, maybe you can tell me what you think...

I chose, Bots/Traps/Mace

Bots for nrg damage,
Traps for fun debuffs, Trip mines and allround gadget theme.
Mace as Scorpion shield is +Def, stacking with Protector Bots Shield, Stealth, and Forcefield Generator.
As for pools,
Stamina(ofcourse)
Teleport, for TP Foe.
Concealment for ultimate "trap" thinking the MM hasn't unpacked is so funny when you attack finding they are in BG mode and pets were invis.
Medecine, heal other is better than Repair and Aid self for Healing stacked with Triage.
Powerboost will also effect heal and boost Def for few seconds ensuring it doesn't get interrupted.

So, here is the build...


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Sure I can help you out - it's spellt "advice"

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LOL what a nub. If your gonna take the [censored], actually have something to take this [censored] about and do it properly.


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I viewed your build. I'm liking the look of it I must say, but I dont get why you go for Blood Mandate on your pets rather than Sovereign Right? The sets to me are much more beneficial.
Also I hope you actually have enough for this build. :P


My main MM is robots/FF. I know the downsides to it, such as theres no decent amount of damage against stronger regenning opponents, but the defense make it a lot more challenging for the enemy player. I've had several PvPers give up on me because my defenses are too high.
I guess your build works in an assault sense, rather than defense 'come and get me', if you see where I'm coming from. I should upload my build sometime...I had it on Mids until the i13 update frikkin deleted it.