Defensive Fortunata.
If your playing a defensive, team based Fort, then double the tactics pools means double the hitting by other people.
If your planning to mostly play Solo, only take the in-built Fort auras, as they have a lower end cost than the pool versions.
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I think using/needing the ldrships would be even more situational than ever. You could be burning toggles/losing end rec for no reason.
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I think I will have to clarify your options:
A: Go with Fortunata toggles only and enjoy a nice little buff to damage, tohit and defense with a bit of limited status protection as a bonus, and all that for a very managable amount of endurance.
Result: Team up with other VEATs built like yours and kill stuff like there is no tomorrow.
B: Run Fortunata and normal Leadership toggles and enjoy an even nicer little buff to damage, tohit and defense. Well, as a matter of fact you will hardly encounter many situations where you notice any additional effect when compared to option A since the damage increase is minimal and most of the time your tohit will be maxed and enemies' tohit floored anyway.
So... looking at the cost we end up with three spent power slots which others might have spent on something that does make an actual difference and an additional endurance consumption that is roughly the equivalent of one permanently spammed attack.
Result: Team up with other VEATs built like yours and take a walk in an area of your choice. Hey, if you are lucky you might even end up slowly killing something.
If it has eyes, you can blind it, if it has blood, you can make it bleed, if it has a mouth, you can make it scream.
Thanks for the replies, I ran through using the extra LS pools over the weekend before I dinged 24 and saw that the end drain was on the higher side of stupid...
Looking at the options and the posts above I have decided that the 3 slots will be much better used elsewhere.
Thanks for the information guys
I still think double assault is worth it. 30% dmg buff? I'll take that ta. No one needs tactics in pve anyway Or pvp since it's broken atm and situational when it isn't.
@Rooks
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You may add to the Damage Per Activation time but the end cost also adds Endurance Per Activation. For solo you would need to make sure the DPA outweighs the EPA so that your DPE is greater to counter the lack of ERS between fights. Scrappers can maintain good DPE whereas Tankers can not, due to the AT mods but if they're doing nothing and need end rec its best to off and on it. You could work out whether VEATs do too. Whilst your not attacking or doing damage Assault will be affecting your end rec and so perhaps countering your DPS by lowering the number of attacks you can do to an endurance bar. Often the more people leaderships affects the more the gains are but the effect has to be measured from the whole of the team. I say often because sometimes no one in the team needed that extra bit of tohit or the extra bit of damage was just excess. A final attack on an enemy may hit for 400 but you may of only needed 200.
An all VEAT team wouldn't need everyone to have TT:Manuevers but if you trim things too much then when someones not on you can be running on less. Having to concern with survivability is the most likely thing to lower pace most noticeably.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
tbh team with one mm above level 12 and double assault pays for itself imo.
I should have put a team 30% dmg buff tyvm but I was being lazy.
That's like 3/4 forge for everyone. WANT.
Sod the presence of other veats tbh.
@Rooks
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Double Assault pays for itself when teamed with one MM? Let's do the maths: When the MM has his pets slotted and his own Leadership Assault running and you have your normal Fortunata Assault an additional Leadership Assault gives less than a 6.5% increase to dps for the cost of roundabout 20% of your endurance recovery (after substracting normal Fortunata toggles) with an otherwise normal build. Not a good deal, especially for an archetype with the damage dealing capabilities of a Fortunata since the small dps increase is quickly consumed by the more frequent breaks you need because of that higher endurance consumption.
And to stay with your example:
The additional Leadership Assault is more like 3/8 Forge for everyone but without the ToHit bonus and at 4.5 times the endurance per second (10.4 end/sec for 120 sec duration vs. 0.39 end/sec). That means even in a full team Forge is 50% more bang for the buck, not even counting the ToHit and the fact that a clever corruptor will Forge the main damage dealer first (which would skew this calculation even more in favour of Forge). NOT WANT.
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I am making a start on my first VEAT and having had a look into the different options I have decided on a defensive Fortunata as the main build.
I have a question though, if I am wanting to use the Fort Leadership auras as buffs is it worth taking the Leadership power pool as well?
I am basically wondering if the Leadership pool is useful or a waste in this sort of build and if the stamina costs are within useable tolerances? (last thing I want to do is turn the buffs on and then run out of end after a minute).
Can anyone with more experience of this give me a headsup?