DM/nin, advice needed


Col_Blitzkrieger

 

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So I recently rolled a DM/nin stalker to duo with my friend red side. I tried making a build and it looks very, VERY tight. This is going to be a PvE (PvE!!) build, with I13 coming I dont think I'm going to invest getting soft capped defence (shadow meld will fix all that).

Overall the combo looks quite survivable (2 self heals and other tricks from /nin) but I'm having a hard time getting the build into a decent state. Any and all help is appreciated


- @DSorrow - alts on Union and Freedom mostly -
Currently playing as Castigation on Freedom

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Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either. -Einstein

 

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Post Build.


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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Here you go then.

The only thing I dont like about this build is the fact how it looks like in the low levels. 2 attacks outside of AS until 32? Ouch.


- @DSorrow - alts on Union and Freedom mostly -
Currently playing as Castigation on Freedom

My Katana/Inv Guide

Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either. -Einstein

 

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I think you forgot to actually post the build. Either that, or my eyesight is failing.


 

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Yeah, oh well.


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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Stalker build


 

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Blah :P I blame caffeine! Think I should actually start checking my posts lol

Trying to post it again

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1,4006
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Level 50 Magic Stalker
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Ninjitsu
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Smite -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(40), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(40), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), T'Death-Dam%(43)
Level 1: Hide -- DefBuff-I(A)
Level 2: Shadow Maul -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(3), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(5), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 4: Ninja Reflexes -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(37), RedFtn-EndRdx(37), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39), RedFtn-Def(40)
Level 6: Assassin's Eclipse -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(7), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Mako-Dam%(36)
Level 8: Build Up -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(9), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(9), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(11), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(11), GSFC-Build%(13)
Level 10: Danger Sense -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-EndRdx(15), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(17), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19), RedFtn-Def(19)
Level 12: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 14: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 16: Kuji-In Rin -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(17)
Level 18: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(21), P'Shift-End%(27)
Level 22: Kuji-In Sha -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(23), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(23), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(25), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Dct'dW-Heal(27)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- Ksmt-ToHit+(A)
Level 26: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 28: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 30: Touch of Fear -- Abys-Acc/Rchg(A), Abys-EndRdx/Fear(31), Abys-Acc/EndRdx(31), Abys-Fear/Rng(31), Abys-Acc/Fear/Rchg(34)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(33), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Mako-Dam%(34)
Level 35: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 38: Kuji-In Retsu -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 41: Dark Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(42), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 44: Soul Storm -- EoCur-Acc/Hold/Rchg(A), Hold-I(45), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(45), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(45), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Blinding Powder -- Mlais-Acc/Rchg(A), Mlais-EndRdx/Conf(48), Mlais-Acc/EndRdx(48), Mlais-Conf/Rng(48), Mlais-Acc/Conf/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Assassination
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- @DSorrow - alts on Union and Freedom mostly -
Currently playing as Castigation on Freedom

My Katana/Inv Guide

Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either. -Einstein

 

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Intentions?

(You're telling me its tight as in its got some must haves "squeezed in"? but I am thinking you could chuck a couple of things out).

I'll elaborate, knockbacks, well they miss you most of the time or you've normally killed the one who could knockback. I have yet to put a KB IO in mine but I honestly haven't found it a problem.

Haste early for more AS and placate over time. Each AS is worth an attack chain. Its very good DPE so less of an end bar lost as a result.


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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It's only tight in the pre-30 region really. Trying to fit in all the stalker tools (AS, BU, placate), some attacks to use outside AS, then defenses to avoid death, travel power and fitness isn't all that easy. I could probably take acrobatics out and fit in shadow punch to help me out. Will have to look at it.


- @DSorrow - alts on Union and Freedom mostly -
Currently playing as Castigation on Freedom

My Katana/Inv Guide

Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either. -Einstein

 

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don't know if you are already running this toon, but I think it's better choice taking danger sense before ninja reflexes .

2 reasons :
- in général your close ennemy die fast with a stalker, he not have the time to melee hurt you ... but when you kill him you aggro other mobs, hich are at range .
- danger sense is the range def but is the AoE def too (unlike the SR set) ... so it preserve you from 2 on 3 attack type .


... and take hasten as soon as possible ^^ ... just after placate i think (you already have the two more important tool with all stalkers at this level : AS and placate, and on a lot of them, a thrid, BU)


 

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i dont know to me taking hasten before SO/IO level is a waste


 

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i dont know to me taking hasten before SO/IO level is a waste

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yeah i can understand it ... but it sounds to me that a lot of power are a waste before SO/IO level ^^ (particulary regarding the stalker sets)

So, i remember on my dark/nin i had to decided if i take one other attack (i already had 3, included AS) ... so, taking shadow punch for a stalker really represent a wasted power to me (too little damage : 0.84 BI), and i don't want to take caltrops . In this case the best choice for me was to take hasten at lvl.10 ... loaded at the good moment, hasten increase a lot my damage and i have a chain with only smite and shaddow maul , and the hasten drop is not an big endurance issue for a stalker . I know that i could take BU at this stage, but dark BU is not a great power at the early level, due to the short duration (unlike the energy BU ^^) ... hasten have a long recharge time too, but a long duration : the choice was made .

Effectively, hasten seems to be a casual power at this level, but there is a solution : to group with toon who boost your recharge time (a x/rad or x/kin - for example - corruptor which is often the right teamer for a stalker,due to their inherent powers too, and you can group with some MM too) ... the big advantage is that you already have hasten when the placate spell is avaible (lvl.12) and of course i'd take the BU at lvl.14, and hasten is really usefull for all these powers ... for sure, the perma-hasten is far at lvl.10 but hasten have a room for a dark/nin stalker at lvl.10 imho