now i liek this idea would make sense to have a AT for sheilds
BAB said that shields wont be an AT, but a defense set, probably because theyve already settled for kheldians only. but I like this Idea too, so I'm guessing its for Tankers, brutes and scrappers?
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There are a couple of reasons why the decided against an offensive Shield set.
1) +def secondary effect would be far much more powerful paired with some defensive power sets than others;
2) They can't do a shield throw for technical reasons, but if Shield Offence didn't include one there would be major a major outcry from all the Captain America fanbois in the US;
3) It would be a bit odd paired with a defense set other than Shields. You have a shield but you can't actually defend yourself with it?!! Greying out all the other defense sets could be done, but would be very limiting;
4) another smashing damage offensive set? Do we really need that?
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IMO most defense sets don't make sense, so i hope shield is a good one.
I just look forward to what they come up with. And I could probably start a book on some of the resulting characters we'll get =P
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IMO most defense sets don't make sense, so i hope shield is a good one.
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Out of interest, why?
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Praf - 1/3) A +Def secondary effect would make it believable if used with a defensive set, and with numbers like that and restricting it so you can't put Defence IO sets in them or enhance how much it increases, then I think it'd be balanced. Also, notice no Extreme damage attacks.
2) No shield throw
4) With it's combination of extra survivability through +Def secondary and knockdown/back, think of it as a Natural origin Stone Melee with a Claws-inspired DPS style.
I am the Blaster, I have filled the role of Tank, Controller and Defender
Sometimes all at once.
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I noticed you didn't include a Shield Throw, I'm just predicting the reaction such a set would get on the US forums. It would go something like this:
"these defence values are gimp"
"You can't enhance def!? the devs hate Shields"
"No Shield throw?! The Devs hate Captain America! They are anti-amaerican commie lovers""
"The devs hate villains/PvP/PvE"
And that's just the more reasonable responses.
I think they would prefer to avoid making a(nother) rod for thier own backs.
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Since Shields are in I13 I thought I'd throw this out to the waters (I know it's been suggested before, but can't hurt to put up a new version of it in light of the new set). This is a Scrapper, Brute and Tanker melee set. Numbers below are based on a Scrapper Primary
Slam You slam your shield strait ahead into the enemy for Moderate damage and a Minor +Defence(all, 1%), fast recharge.
Defend You quickly flick your shield into the enemy to protect yourself from attacks for Minor damage and Minor +Defence(All, 1.5%) over 5 seconds, fast recharge.
Uppercut You swing the shield into the enemy's chin, hitting them into the air for Moderate damage, medium recharge.
Build Up
Swing You swing your shield infront of you in an arc, hitting everyone within range for Moderate damage, slow recharge.
Challenge Single Target Taunt, animation plays of you hitting the front of your shield twice then pointing at the target.
Ram You ram your shield forward with enough force to knock your enemy over for High damage and Minor +Defence(All, 2%) over 5 seconds, slow recharge.
Deflect Blows You hit the enemies with the intention to slow their next attacks so you can easily block them, causing Minor damage and Moderate +Defence(Melee, 15%) over 10 seconds, slow recharge.
Trip You lower your shield and spin, tripping over enemies within melee range for Moderate damage, the extra beathing room also gives you a Minor +Defence(all, 3%) for 6 seconds, long recharge.
I am the Blaster, I have filled the role of Tank, Controller and Defender
Sometimes all at once.
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