Health and Stamina
Kheldian forms take endmod enhancements, so you can improve your recovery. Personally, I don't slot for it and even so I can't recall the last time my WS Nova ran out of endurance while going all out blasting (and that includes using Hasten). My dwarf is a little worse, but I haven't sorted out my slotting on dwarf attacks yet.
So no, I don't feel that not getting stamina/health boosts in forms is hindering my gameplay.
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I dont say it's hindering gameplay, but i know onlu my PB dwarf, i can run out of END quite quickly.
The thing i just think seem lame is that the forms have preset END recovery.
My PB has 2.76% recovery normaly, when i use dwarf im lowered to 2.20
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If you run out of end, isn't that hindering your gameplay?
The forms don't have a set recovery as they can be slotted for endmod. There are also plenty of IO sets that fit in form powers (especially dwarf) that provide recovery bonuses.
Icelock - Ice/Storm Controller
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I dont say it's hindering gameplay, but i know onlu my PB dwarf, i can run out of END quite quickly.
The thing i just think seem lame is that the forms have preset END recovery.
My PB has 2.76% recovery normaly, when i use dwarf im lowered to 2.20
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The actual bonus to endurance if unslotted is alot worse than you think.
Both White Dwarf and Bright Nova unslotted with endurance modification cost 0.27% endurance per second and provide 0.26% endurance per second.
Your base % recharge is the same as being in any form aswell as being in human. So maximum endurance recovery is slotted with 3 single origin endurance mods enables both dwarf and nova t0 give 0.25% endurance per second max or 0.52% but taking into account that both forms use endurance its still 0.25% + base 1.67%.
As for regeneration, theres no increase in the the amount of health regenerated in whitedwarf compared to being in human form. There both 0.42%
So the "improved hp recovery" on the white dwarf description basicly doesnt exist (plaync know about this ive told them, but dont care, and ive been asked to post here).
As for again the "Improved recovery (end)" on both descriptions is way over rated, its that simple.
A few thoughts.
Using both EndRed and EndMod (max slotting with HOs and the like), I think you can get about 0.37% recovery in the forms. Fully slotted Stamina is what - about 0.81%? So not great but still heading to half of what stamina gives. Both PB and WS also have powers that can reduce or recover endurance - albeit needing to go human to use them - and conserve power stays active when in forms.
So Kehlds seem to have a nice range of endurance management options and with a lot of self heals, Health is less imprtant too I'd say.
I've not checked the actual wording on Dwarf but if it says that it gives an increase to HP regenerated, isn't that true? Dwarf gives +HP so technically you are getting more HP back per second whilst in it even though the regen rate is the same.
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A few thoughts.
Using both EndRed and EndMod (max slotting with HOs and the like), I think you can get about 0.37% recovery in the forms. Fully slotted Stamina is what - about 0.81%? So not great but still heading to half of what stamina gives. Both PB and WS also have powers that can reduce or recover endurance - albeit needing to go human to use them - and conserve power stays active when in forms.
So Kehlds seem to have a nice range of endurance management options and with a lot of self heals, Health is less imprtant too I'd say.
I've not checked the actual wording on Dwarf but if it says that it gives an increase to HP regenerated, isn't that true? Dwarf gives +HP so technically you are getting more HP back per second whilst in it even though the regen rate is the same.
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It is true that pbs have access to conserve energy, but, if im fighting mobs which use mez, then being in human form is suicide.
So basicly, taken me a few months to realise the pb is just a gimick version of a tank and blaster.
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So basicly, taken me a few months to realise the pb is just a gimick version of a tank and blaster.
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Really? Mine's more of a mini tankmage. Maybe you should revisit your build?
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In looking at that build I don't see much need for stamina.
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In looking at that build I don't see much need for stamina.
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Energy flight plus, nothing else i could think of to waste powers on.
I just wanted hear other Kheldian's oppinion on a matter i noticed today.
We all know that we cant use other powers then the preset powers in our Nova and Dwarf form.
But what do you think about the fact that Stamina and Health dont effect us as long as we are in our forms.
Personaly i dont like it, cause it locks us at a Set Regen and Recovery, wich we cant increase, Wich seems pretty lame to me.
What do you guys think ?
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