Focussed Accuracy is wonderful. Conserve Power makes you virtually omnipotent.
And Energy Torrent is vastly underrated. Slot it for Accuracy, Damage and Rech. EndRed if you can spare it. Use it as your opening attack on a mob, follow up with Throw Spines, then jump in and unleash your AoE.
Oppressive Gloom is fine with 2 SOs worth of accuracy. If you have the slots, go for Stupefy, Although I'd rather have more Acc (so would go for Acc/End/Stun, Acc/End and Chance for Knockdown).
Does ET not scatter the mobs with excessive knockback then?
That's why I was looking at it as being impractical.
ET is knockDOWN not knockBACK on Scrappers, so it makes a fantastic mitigation tool and keeps your foes in one place long enough to use "Throw Spines" and your opening few AoEs.
It's slightly longer range and slightly narrower than Throw Spines, but does virtually identical damage.
(although being energy/smashing rather than lethal, it can actually be more damaging than Throw Spines)
I have OG with 5 slots and have 5 Stupify's for the set bonus's. Although I now have 2 Absolute Amazements so I'm thinking of putting 5 of those in for the better bonus's.
As you are a spines/DA I would 100% go against putting the chance chance for KB in there. I had it for a while and it is 100% annoying as when the chance happens it sends all the mobs hit that tick flying backwards..
Aye, TBH I'd go with Acc/Stun/Rech, Acc/Rech, and Acc/End if you want the bonuses.
I didn't really bother with Set Bonuses on my Spines/DA, focussing instead on raw enhancement % values.
With my Spines/DA I went for as much +recovery, +endurance reduction and +damage as possible. Accuracy and +regen was next, followed by recharge. Currently I can turn on Focussed Accuracy and run about spamming attacks versus just about anything. I only really need to turn it off periodically when I'm fighting Carnies. Occasionally using "Conserve Power" easily manages keeps my endurance the rest of the time.
Since Issue 11, the only Purple enh I've slotted has been the AoE Fire Damage Proc in Death Shroud (I had a "Scirroco's Dervish" Lethal Damage one in before). It can tank Psionic Damage AVs, is by far my best "AoE damage" toon, and can hold it's own in "farming" capability versus most Fire/Kin/Fire controllers.
Current Build is below, with the exception of "Stamina" since Endurance Set IOs aren't fixed yet.
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Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Lunge -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg:50(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(3), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(5), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(7), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx:50(45)
Level 1: Dark Embrace -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(11), ResDam-I:50(15), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx:50(15)
Level 2: Death Shroud -- Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx:50(A), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg:50(3), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(5), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx:50(7), Armgdn-Dam%:50(13), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx:50(13)
Level 4: Murky Cloud -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(17), ResDam-I:50(17), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx:50(36)
Level 6: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 8: Impale -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg:50(9), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(9), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(11), HO:Centri(36), Range-I:50(46)
Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- HO:Ribo(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx:50(40), ResDam-I:50(40), Aegis-Psi/Status:50(40)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- Ksmt-ToHit+:30(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+:40(50)
Level 14: Super Jump -- HO:Micro(A)
Level 16: Health -- Numna-Heal:50(A), Numna-Heal/Rchg:50(39), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(42), Mrcl-Heal:40(43), Mrcl-Rcvry+:40(43), RgnTis-Regen+:30(43)
Level 18: Quills -- C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg:50(A), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx:50(19), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(19), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx:50(37), Sciroc-Dam%:49(37), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx:50(37)
Level 20: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod:50(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg:50(21), EndMod-I:50(21)
Level 22: Dark Regeneration -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(A), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg:50(23), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx:50(23), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(25), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(25), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg:50(36)
Level 24: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I:50(A), EndRdx-I:50(39)
Level 26: Ripper -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(27), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(27), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg:50(29), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg:50(34)
Level 28: Build Up -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(29), HO:Membr(39)
Level 30: Spine Burst -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(31), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(31), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg:50(31), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg:50(34)
Level 32: Throw Spines -- Det'tn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(A), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg:50(33), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg:50(33), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(33), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(34), EndRdx-I:50(46)
Level 35: Oppressive Gloom -- Rope-Acc/Stun/Rchg:50(A), Rope-Acc/Stun:50(46)
Level 38: Confront -- Taunt-I:50(A)
Level 41: Focused Accuracy -- HO:Cyto(A), HO:Cyto(42), HO:Cyto(42)
Level 44: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(45), RechRdx-I:50(45)
Level 47: Energy Torrent -- Det'tn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(A), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg:50(48), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg:50(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(50), RechRdx-I:50(50)
Level 49: Soul Transfer -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I:50(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth:50(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
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Aha, didnt realise that. Knockdown good, knockback bad. Does it still take Knockback IOs?
I think my choice just got really easy
If you stick range enhancements into a cone attack doesnt it increase the width of the cone? Might just be my shonky memory on that.
Mmmm, the advice for slotting OG are good, however, on my DM/DA I just have it slotted with an acc/mez HO (Endoplasm Exposure) on base slot and works fine so far.
It takes Knockback IOs, but the only one I'd ever slot is the ForceFeedback "Chance for +Rech" one...
Yeah, slotting Range will increase the width of a Cone attack. It's worth noting that since Energy Torrent is longer range than Throw Spines (40 Feet as opposed to 30 feet), you can still catch roughly the same amount of foes in it. The only gripe I have is that it has a long recharge time, but a few IOs can take care of that...
Before IOs, I only bothered putting two Accuracy SOs into Gloom. One Acc SO or an Acc/Mez HO will work just fine in the base slot since it's "perma" out of the box, I just prefer slightly higher accuracy.
Ah, that seems a familiar set of power choices
Ive not opted for Acrobatics and gone for a KB IO instead; so far the only thing thats had trouble with is the Katie Hannon TF AVs hurricane. Ive picked up Cloak of Darkness but it feels like a wasted pick and will probably get dumped in a respec. Quite possibly for Acro, as Im feeling I can cope with the end cost.
Spine Burst at L30 seems late, is that a to-50 build or a respecced one?
Ive mixed and matched my IO sets so far but due to popularity of some of the sets theyre pretty tricky to get hold of at the moment Im using a full set of Crushing Blow plus two from Multi Strike for example. I'd like to get the Health IOs but the price / availability is a bit of an issue.
That's a respecced build at level 50, but it's not too different to my levelling build. I didn't take Spine Burst until 30 when I was levelling anyway. Ripper and the twin damage auras were easier for consistent damage output on teams than Spine Burst (low-damage PBAoE with a large end cost and a long activation time).
He was at level 50 before i9 hit, I had him IO'ed within two weeks of it going live. Fun biccies!
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The Stupefy - Chance for Knockdown is mislabelled and is actually Chance for KnockBACK 
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Dammit.
Thanks for the heads up Archy.
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...and Chance for Knockdown
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The Stupefy - Chance for Knockdown is mislabelled and is actually Chance for KnockBACK
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And boy, does it knockback!
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Ive just hit L35 on my spines / dark and wanted to pick the brains of the experts here
Ive grabbed Oppressive Gloom and am a bit flummoxed on to how to slot it the end drain seems minimal and the cost to health doesnt seem to be a problem. At the moment Im thinking of three-slotting it with the Stupefy set (Acc/End, End/Stun and Chance for Knockdown) to pick up some helpful set bonuses.
Not sure if thats enough accuracy to be honest
The other thing is patron pools, which arent really that far away Ive read a few builds which include body mastery; due to the +recovery bonuses Ive managed to accumulate with the IO sets endurance isnt a big issue anymore though I suppose conserve power + focused accuracy might work together. Dark looks pretty good simply due to the Tentacles which would keep my targets within my AOE doom, as might caltrops.