Ice/ice/cold PvP build
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Pwnd.
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Pwnd.
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Yeah this thread indeed got pwned >.<
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IO build you planning on? I can't log in to the game so may as well be some help to the community. (^_^)
Well the IOs up in the build I posted are nearly 100% the ones I already have. Dont have much extra to spend currently because my spine/SRs IO build is taking heaps of inf
I will be improving it with other IOs later once I'm done with my spine/SR and have some spare inf.
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Bear in mind the build is supposed to be quite cheap to achieve
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Ok, I've come up with a build that is a bit more expensive, but still doable if you put some effort into it. I've dropped both holds as slowcapping is more effective, Blizzard in favour of Ice Storm(nice set bonus and I'm not a big fan of Blizzard) and have gone for Leadership instead of Medicine Pool(I don't duel anyway).
Having just finished the respec on my other Blaster, I'm thinking of making this my new priority hero side. Either this or my new Defender
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1,30
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php
Frostblaze: Level 50 Mutation Blaster
Primary Power Set: Ice Blast
Secondary Power Set: Ice Manipulation
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Cold Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Ice Blast -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg:50(3), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(3), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(5), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(5), HO:Centri(7)
Level 1: Chilblain -- TotHntr-Acc/Rchg:50(A), TotHntr-EndRdx/Immob:50(39), TotHntr-Acc/EndRdx:50(39), TotHntr-Acc/Immob/Rchg:50(39)
Level 2: Ice Bolt -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg:50(7), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(9), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(9), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(11), HO:Centri(11)
Level 4: Ice Sword -- Mako-Dmg/EndRdx:50(A), Mako-Dmg/Rchg:50(13), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(13), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(15), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(15), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(17)
Level 6: Aim -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(17), HO:Membr(19)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(19), RechRdx-I:50(21)
Level 10: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A), Jump-I:50(46)
Level 12: Ice Storm -- Posi-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:50(21), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(37), Posi-Dmg/Rng:50(40), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(40), P'ngTtl-Acc/EndRdx:50(46)
Level 14: Super Speed -- HO:Micro(A), HO:Micro(23)
Level 16: Build Up -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(23), HO:Membr(25)
Level 18: Swift -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 20: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod:50(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg:50(25), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg:50(27), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg:50(34), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc:50(34), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx:50(37)
Level 22: Bitter Ice Blast -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg:50(27), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(29), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(29), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(31), HO:Centri(31)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- Jump-I:50(A), Jump-I:50(31), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(33), Ksmt-ToHit+:30(33)
Level 26: Super Jump -- HO:Micro(A), HO:Micro(33)
Level 28: Shiver -- P'ngTtl-Acc/Slow:50(A), P'ngTtl-Acc/EndRdx:50(40), P'ngTtl-Rng/Slow:50(42), P'ngTtl-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow:50(43), TmpRdns-Acc/EndRdx:50(43)
Level 30: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I:50(A), EndRdx-I:50(46)
Level 32: Assault -- EndRdx-I:50(A), EndRdx-I:50(34)
Level 35: Tactics -- AdjTgt-ToHit:50(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg:50(36), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg:50(36), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg:50(36), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx:50(37)
Level 38: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A)
Level 41: Snow Storm -- P'ngTtl-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow:50(A), TmpRdns-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow:50(42), ImpSwft-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow:30(42), CtlSpd-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow:30(43)
Level 44: Frozen Armor -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx:50(A), RedFtn-Def:50(45), RedFtn-EndRdx:50(45), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(45), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg:50(50), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(50)
Level 47: Hibernate -- Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg:50(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(48), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(48), Dct'dW-Heal:50(48), Dct'dW-Rchg:50(50)
Level 49: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Defiance
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BFR does -recharge/-slow also i believe.
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Yeah and a 24% damage buff with new defiance
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Yup, long casting suddenly becomes usefull
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Maybe not for you, for me it does. Accept, adept and move on; works like a charm.
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Maybe not for you, for me it does. Accept, adept and move on; works like a charm.
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See that's the thing. Even in PvE long animation times in combat can be an issue because it leaves you at the mercy of incoming damage, either unable to use something like Inspirations, Hibernate, PFF etc...
This is even more apparent in PvP IMO.
damage buff isnt worth much if you're dead.
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BFR does -recharge/-slow also i believe.
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So does Ice Bolt and Ice Blast(same values as BFR btw), but I take those for damage. I wouldn't take a single target hold with 20 second recharge and a 3.7 second animation in PVP, just because it did some slowing. I would have to do 100% damage buff for 30 seconds for me to even consider taking it.
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Yeah, but standing around for a 3.5+ second animation to play in PVP however is not useful. You will die. Repeatedly.
Shiver is a better tool for slowing. You'll slow much more effectively while hardly losing any movement.
Ahem, ice bolt and ice blast both do a buff of about 6.5% damage. They dont do as high a damage buff as BFR because their animation times are so much faster.
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Currently playing as Castigation on Freedom
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BFR has its casting/animation recently reduced greatly, it feels nearly as fast as Epic Munition cryo ray.
But agree, in PvP its not that viable, maybe as opener for a nice dmg boost chain it might be decent.
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It is actually quite viable against slow capped scrappers
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Currently playing as Castigation on Freedom
My Katana/Inv Guide
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Ahem, ice bolt and ice blast both do a buff of about 6.5% damage. They dont do as high a damage buff as BFR because their animation times are so much faster.
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I understand that, I'm just telling you that powers that animate that long will get you killed if you fight anyone with a hint of skill in the Arena, and will definitely get you killed in Stalker filled zones. So any damage buffs it gives will not help you that much, as there will be good chance that you'll be dead 2 seconds after you've used it.
Sinergy-X indicated that BFR also had slowing abilities, assuming me to believe he thought it was a viable tool for slowing. I simply disagree. I pointed out that both Ice Bolt and Ice Blast( and Bitter Ice Blast as well actually ) also had the same slowing abilities, but that they were mainly used for damage( the slowing just being a nice added bonus ).
BFR however is a hold, and not a very good one at that, seeing that the duration, recharge and the animation are not very well suited for hold stacking and hold stacking is not really a very viable tactic for a blaster in PVP anyway( not after the nerfs ). Smart people will be packing Break Free's and you don't have the time, endurance, or hold duration to stack over it. It's easier just to slow them to a standstill with Shiver, while keeping constant damage on them through your attacks. Keep in mind thought that even though you can slow movement speed a lot, anyone with Superjump or Teleport can still easily get close to you, so you don't want to be standing still very much, if at all.
So, with the freespec coming next week I'm going to respec my ice/ice/cold blaster into a PvP'ish build. She currently has a PvE build but is performing OK in PvP (mainly duels), so I'm thinking it may improve with a proper PvP build
Bear in mind the build is supposed to be quite cheap to achieve
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1,30
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php
Level 50 Magic Blaster
Primary Power Set: Ice Blast
Secondary Power Set: Ice Manipulation
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Medicine
Ancillary Pool: Cold Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Ice Bolt -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(15), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Decim-Build%(40)
Level 1: Chilblain -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Ice Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(3), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 4: Ice Sword -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(5), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), F'dSmite-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 6: Swift -- Run-I(A), Run-I(50), Run-I(50)
Level 8: Freeze Ray -- Hold-I(A), Hold-I(9), Acc-I(9), Acc-I(15), RechRdx-I(31), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 10: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A), Jump-I(11), Jump-I(11)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- Jump-I(A), Jump-I(13), Jump-I(13)
Level 14: Super Jump -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 16: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(17), RechRdx-I(17)
Level 18: Bitter Ice Blast -- RechRdx-I(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(19), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(19), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(27), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(21), EndMod-I(21)
Level 22: Aim -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(23), RechRdx-I(23)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 26: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(48)
Level 28: Shiver -- Acc-I(A), TmpRdns-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(29), TmpRdns-Acc/EndRdx(29), TmpRdns-Acc/Slow(31), Slow-I(43)
Level 30: Bitter Freeze Ray -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(43), Hold-I(43), Hold-I(46), Hold-I(46)
Level 32: Blizzard -- Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(33), RechRdx-I(33), RechRdx-I(33), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg(34)
Level 35: Aid Other -- Empty(A)
Level 38: Aid Self -- IntRdx-I(A), IntRdx-I(39), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(39), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Heal-I(40), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 41: Snow Storm -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(42), Slow-I(42), Slow-I(42)
Level 44: Frozen Armor -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def(45), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(45), RedFtn-EndRdx(45), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Hibernate -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 49: Super Speed -- EndRdx-I(A), Run-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Defiance
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[u]Set Bonus Totals:[u]
[*]+2% DamageBuff[*]+7,5% Defense(Energy)[*]+28% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*]+10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*]+1,5% Enhancement(Slow)[*]+12% FlySpeed[*]+13,6 (1,13%) HitPoints[*]+12% JumpSpeed[*]+MezResist(Immobilize) (Mag 4,4%)[*]+MezResist(Terrorized) (Mag 2,2%)[*]+7,5% Recovery[*]+1,26% Resistance(Fire)[*]+1,26% Resistance(Cold)[*]+12% RunSpeed[/list]
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- @DSorrow - alts on Union and Freedom mostly -
Currently playing as Castigation on Freedom
My Katana/Inv Guide
Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either. -Einstein