Empathy/Radiation PvP Defender

Captain_Alpha_EU · 09-22-2007 01:56 PM

Hello Defenders . I need some help from anyone who has experience in the way of using an empath in PvP, or radiation blast too. I figured that since I'm in the PvP zones more and more nowdays and am really into the whole role of a defender, I would like to try and optimise my emp/rad defender for PvP. I so far, have a rough idea of where to take him build wise at level 50:

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.21
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php

Cleansing Light: Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Empathy
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Blast
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Power Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Healing Aura -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:53(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg:53(3), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:53(5), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:53(9), Dct'dW-Heal:53(11), Dct'dW-Rchg:53(17)
Level 1: Neutrino Bolt -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg:53(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx:53(19), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg:53(23), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:53(23), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:53(43)
Level 2: Heal Other -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:53(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg:53(3), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:53(5), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:53(9), Dct'dW-Heal:53(15), Dct'dW-Rchg:53(17)
Level 4: Absorb Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:53(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:53(7), Dct'dW-Heal:53(11), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:53(19), Dct'dW-Rchg:53(40)
Level 6: X-Ray Beam -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg:53(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx:53(7), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg:53(15), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:53(39), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:53(40), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:53(43)
Level 8: Clear Mind -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:53(A)
Level 12: Fortitude -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(13), DefBuff-I:50(13), DefBuff-I:50(39), ToHit-I:50(50), ToHit-I:50(50)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 16: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 18: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:53(A), Numna-Heal:53(46), Numna-Heal/Rchg:53(46)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I:50(A), EndMod-I:50(21), EndMod-I:50(21)
Level 22: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 24: Recovery Aura -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(25), RechRdx-I:50(25), EndMod-I:50(34), EndMod-I:50(34), EndMod-I:50(37)
Level 26: Regeneration Aura -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(27), RechRdx-I:50(27), Heal-I:50(34), Heal-I:50(36), Heal-I:50(37)
Level 28: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(29), RechRdx-I:50(29)
Level 30: Cosmic Burst -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg:53(A), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx:53(31), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg:53(31), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:53(31), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:53(37), Dev'n-Hold%:53(39)
Level 32: Adrenalin Boost -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(33), RechRdx-I:50(33), EndMod-I:50(33), EndMod-I:50(40), Heal-I:50(46)
Level 35: Aim -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(36), RechRdx-I:50(36), ToHit-I:50(43)
Level 38: Super Speed -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 41: Power Build Up -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(42), RechRdx-I:50(42), ToHit-I:50(42)
Level 44: Temp Invulnerability -- Aegis-ResDam:53(A), Aegis-Psi/Status:53(45), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:53(45), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg:53(45)
Level 47: Total Focus -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg:53(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx:53(48), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg:53(48), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:53(48), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:53(50)
Level 49: Stealth -- RedFtn-Def/Rchg:50(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Vigilance
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[u]Set Bonus Totals:[u]<ul type="square">[*]+3% DamageBuff[*]+1.58% Defense(Fire)[*]+1.58% Defense(Cold)[*]+5% Defense(Energy)[*]+3.75% Defense(Psionic)[*]+2.5% Defense(Ranged)[*]+21% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*]+12% Enhancement(Heal)[*]+27.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*]+8% FlySpeed[*]+53.4 (5.25%) HitPoints[*]+8% JumpSpeed[*]+MezResist(Confused) (Mag 20%)[*]+MezResist(Held) (Mag 23.3%)[*]+MezResist(Immobilize) (Mag 22.2%)[*]+MezResist(Sleep) (Mag 20%)[*]+MezResist(Stun) (Mag 20%)[*]+MezResist(Terrorized) (Mag 26.6%)[*]+4% Recovery[*]+24% Regeneration[*]+3.78% Resistance(Fire)[*]+3.78% Resistance(Cold)[*]+2.52% Resistance(Toxic)[*]+5.52% Resistance(Psionic)[*]+13% RunSpeed[*]+2.5% Debt Protection[/list]

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Now I figured that with those IO's he should be a pretty handy guy to have around in PvP, the amount of regen he can give off through Regen aura and AB is self explanatory! Also I was originally opting for conserve power at 49 but I figured that I may aswell go with stealth, even though I have been told that if you want to be a stealthy healer it's best to try an ill/emp troller and use superior invis. Nonetheless it has a low end cost and could stealth me out to some of my enemies in PvP. I didn't take Numina IO's on my 3 heals as I wanted to try and make this a practical build which wouldnt be too expensive inf-wise. The set bonuses are not bad I think.

As always your suggestions to my build or anything PvP Empath related are welcome . Cheers in Advance!

Capt. A

Phil_ · 09-22-2007 04:13 PM

It looks quite offensive which isnt really the way to go for an empath. Taking and slotting attacks is only worth doing for the IO bonus'.

Ideally you want 5 Decimations into your first two attacks then 5 stupefy or decimation in Cosmic burst. Each gives you 6.25% recharge boost boost.

Aim and Total Focus are pretty pointless on an empath, TF especially makes you a sitting duck and you dont need the recharge boost from the Crushing impacts. Switch these two for grant and phase shift (which is very nice on an empath as you are gonna be a target especially when you use Absorb pain).

You definately want to get 5 lots of 5% recharge bonus' and is quite easy and relatively cheap. You want 5 Doctors Wounds in Heal Aura, Regen Aura, and Absorb Pain (with 1 range). You also want 5 Red Fortunes in Stealth and Grant, idealy you want them slotted 5 RF's and a Luck of the Gambler +Recharge but these are very expensive, I still have mine 6 slotted so if I ever have a spare one I can slot it in.

On an empath you endurance wont be an issue, excluding external factors like end drainers, so there isnt much point in spending 20-30 mil Inf on Numina Recovery IO so save the inf for other things

Ranges make you life so much easier especially in larger teams. You want 2-3 ranges in CM, slot Fortitude with 3 Membrane HOs 2 ranges and 1 LOTG +Rec, and I like having 2 ranges in Heal Other, lots of ways to slot it though 4 different heal/recharge and 2 range IOs is nice.

Good luck

thePhilosopher Martial Arts/Regen/Fire Scrapper
theRegulator Empathy/Energy/Soul Defender
Total Inertia Ice Blast/Kinetics/Psy Corruptor
Total Inferno Ice Blast/Thermal/Leviathan Corruptor

Captain_Alpha_EU · 09-22-2007 04:44 PM

Thanks for the feedback Phil, much appreciated I've had a quick edit with the advice you've given me but I am a little bit uncertain on a few things:

Phase Shift and Grant Invis? I'm assuming their stealth values stack when they are both turned on? I can see how Grant Invis would help as if I'm healing the stealth will still apply (I'm guessing). Ive read the description for Phase shift in Mid's and it says that I cannot affect or be affected by those in normal space, does that mean I won't be able to heal them or something? If so I may have to give Phase Shift a miss. Could you also advise slotting for Phase shift please? I can see your point about total focus and the ranges though, and the Membrane HO's... most wise advice

Phil_ · 09-22-2007 04:56 PM

Phase is a self protection power for one you are being attacked, especially good after you absorb pain and cant heal yourself, saved my as lots of times. Its worth slotting with 2-3 recharge.

Villains lack perception generally so grant allows your team to get the jump on them, also nice place for IO bonus' and the defence stacks with fort for even more defence

thePhilosopher Martial Arts/Regen/Fire Scrapper
theRegulator Empathy/Energy/Soul Defender
Total Inertia Ice Blast/Kinetics/Psy Corruptor
Total Inferno Ice Blast/Thermal/Leviathan Corruptor

Psydock · 09-22-2007 04:58 PM

Read my guide in guide section it will help you a lot.

Captain_Alpha_EU · 09-23-2007 08:23 AM

I had a look at that Psydock, it helped a little bit on the empathy side, but I'm not an illusion troller unfortunately Very nice guide nonetheless, gets a thumbs up from me

Anyway, I've had a little play around with the slots and powers and I do believe this should be better:

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.21
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php

Cleansing Light: Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Empathy
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Blast
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Power Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Healing Aura -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:53(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg:53(3), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:53(5), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:53(9), Dct'dW-Heal:53(11), Dct'dW-Rchg:53(17)
Level 1: Neutrino Bolt -- Decim-Acc/Dmg:40(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx:40(19), Decim-Dmg/Rchg:40(23), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:40(23), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(43)
Level 2: Heal Other -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:53(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:53(3), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:53(5), Dct'dW-Heal:53(9), Dct'dW-Rchg:53(15), Range-I:50(17)
Level 4: Absorb Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:53(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:53(7), Dct'dW-Heal:53(11), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:53(19), Dct'dW-Rchg:53(40), Range-I:50(43)
Level 6: X-Ray Beam -- Decim-Acc/Dmg:40(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx:40(7), Decim-Dmg/Rchg:40(15), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(39), Decim-Build%:40(40)
Level 8: Clear Mind -- Range-I:50(A), Range-I:50(45)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 12: Fortitude -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(13), HO:Membr(13), Range-I:50(46), Range-I:50(50)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 16: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 18: Health -- Heal-I:50(A), Heal-I:50(46)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I:50(A), EndMod-I:50(21), EndMod-I:50(21)
Level 22: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 24: Recovery Aura -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(25), RechRdx-I:50(25), EndMod-I:50(34), EndMod-I:50(34), EndMod-I:50(37)
Level 26: Regeneration Aura -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(27), RechRdx-I:50(27), Heal-I:50(34), Heal-I:50(36), Heal-I:50(37)
Level 28: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(29), RechRdx-I:50(29)
Level 30: Cosmic Burst -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg:53(A), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun:53(31), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx:53(31), Stpfy-Stun/Rng:53(31), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg:53(37), Dmg-I:50(39)
Level 32: Adrenalin Boost -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(33), RechRdx-I:50(33), EndMod-I:50(33), EndMod-I:50(40), Heal-I:50(46)
Level 35: Stealth -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx:53(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg:53(36), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:53(36), RedFtn-Def:53(39), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg:53(43)
Level 38: Super Speed -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 41: Power Build Up -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(42), RechRdx-I:50(42), ToHit-I:50(42)
Level 44: Temp Invulnerability -- Aegis-ResDam:53(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:53(45), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg:53(45)
Level 47: Grant Invisibility -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx:53(A), RedFtn-Def:53(48), RedFtn-Def/Rchg:53(48), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg:53(48), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:53(50)
Level 49: Phase Shift -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Vigilance
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One thing I am a little unsure of though is the placings of stealth and grant invisibility, should grant invis go at 35 and stealth at 47? I dont think it'll make much of a difference eitherway. Also I've taken out the LotG 7.5% rech IO's because of the price... one of them is just a stupid amount and I cannot afford them just now Still the other set bonuses help. Anyway any more feedback is welcome. I hope to hear from you soon!

Capt

Psydock · 09-23-2007 08:34 AM

more recharge in clear mind and more range, no need for end mod in RA. If you want your ab to be set for more end mod go Heal/rech numina Heal/rech Dctor Heal/rech miracle Heal/rech/end doctor then put two end mode io's.
Put in a doctor wound set in regen aura. Get more run speed in ss. If you take health 4 slot it with numina for the set bonuses.

Psydock · 09-23-2007 08:54 AM

http://uk.boards.cityofheroes.com/showfl...SID=#Post955129

this might help you a bit.

Captain_Alpha_EU · 09-23-2007 08:54 AM

Cheers Psy, made another little change, I didnt however put the recharge in clear mind, only found space for one slot and that only shaved off 0.7 seconds, hardly worth it and I am no way going to move slots around when the recharge bonus is that small ^^.

I moved the tohit buff out of build up and put it in SS, so now thats 3 run speeds, quick enough?

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.21
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php

Cleansing Light: Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Empathy
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Blast
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Power Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Healing Aura -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:53(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg:53(3), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:53(5), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:53(9), Dct'dW-Heal:53(11), Dct'dW-Rchg:53(17)
Level 1: Neutrino Bolt -- Decim-Acc/Dmg:40(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx:40(19), Decim-Dmg/Rchg:40(23), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:40(23), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(43)
Level 2: Heal Other -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:53(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:53(3), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:53(5), Dct'dW-Heal:53(9), Dct'dW-Rchg:53(15), Range-I:50(17)
Level 4: Absorb Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:53(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:53(7), Dct'dW-Heal:53(11), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:53(19), Dct'dW-Rchg:53(40), Range-I:50(43)
Level 6: X-Ray Beam -- Decim-Acc/Dmg:40(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx:40(7), Decim-Dmg/Rchg:40(15), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(39), Decim-Build%:40(40)
Level 8: Clear Mind -- Range-I:50(A), Range-I:50(34)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 12: Fortitude -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(13), HO:Membr(13), Range-I:50(46), Range-I:50(50)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 16: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 18: Health -- Numna-Heal:50(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:53(34), Numna-Heal/Rchg:53(37), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(46)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I:50(A), EndMod-I:50(21), EndMod-I:50(21)
Level 22: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 24: Recovery Aura -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(25), RechRdx-I:50(25), EndMod-I:50(45)
Level 26: Regeneration Aura -- Dct'dW-Heal:50(A), Dct'dW-Rchg:50(27), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:50(27), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(34), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg:50(36), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(37)
Level 28: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(29), RechRdx-I:50(29)
Level 30: Cosmic Burst -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg:53(A), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun:53(31), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx:53(31), Stpfy-Stun/Rng:53(31), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg:53(37), Dmg-I:50(39)
Level 32: Adrenalin Boost -- Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(A), Numna-Heal/Rchg:50(33), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg:40(33), EndMod-I:50(33), EndMod-I:50(40)
Level 35: Stealth -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx:53(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg:53(36), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:53(36), RedFtn-Def:53(39), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg:53(43)
Level 38: Super Speed -- Run-I:50(A), Run-I:50(42), Run-I:50(46)
Level 41: Power Build Up -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(42), RechRdx-I:50(42)
Level 44: Temp Invulnerability -- Aegis-ResDam:53(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:53(45), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg:53(45)
Level 47: Grant Invisibility -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx:53(A), RedFtn-Def:53(48), RedFtn-Def/Rchg:53(48), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg:53(48), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:53(50)
Level 49: Phase Shift -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(50)
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Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Vigilance
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Psydock · 09-23-2007 09:01 AM

2 run IO's are enough put the other one in sj for a jump/end IO. if you can free up a slot i'd put another range in clearmind. And having clear mind recharging 0,7 seks faster does help when you need to keep a lot of people cm'd. Other then that all i can say is if you can afford put lotg + rech in fortitude stealth GI combat jump. Personally i'd only 3 slot the attacks for devistation to get the + hp but then again i seem to like + hp a lot lol :P.

Captain_Alpha_EU · 09-23-2007 09:05 AM

Hehe who doesnt Ok well you seem like a veteran at this so I'll take your advice on the clear mind, hows this?

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.21
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php

Cleansing Light: Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Empathy
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Blast
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Power Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Healing Aura -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:53(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg:53(3), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:53(5), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:53(9), Dct'dW-Heal:53(11), Dct'dW-Rchg:53(17)
Level 1: Neutrino Bolt -- Decim-Acc/Dmg:40(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx:40(19), Decim-Dmg/Rchg:40(23), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:40(23), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(43)
Level 2: Heal Other -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:53(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:53(3), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:53(5), Dct'dW-Heal:53(9), Dct'dW-Rchg:53(15), Range-I:50(17)
Level 4: Absorb Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:53(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:53(7), Dct'dW-Heal:53(11), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:53(19), Dct'dW-Rchg:53(40), Range-I:50(43)
Level 6: X-Ray Beam -- Decim-Acc/Dmg:40(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx:40(7), Decim-Dmg/Rchg:40(15), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(39), Decim-Build%:40(40)
Level 8: Clear Mind -- Range-I:50(A), Range-I:50(34), RechRdx-I:50(45), RechRdx-I:50(46)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 12: Fortitude -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(13), HO:Membr(13), Range-I:50(46), Range-I:50(50)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 16: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 18: Health -- Numna-Heal:50(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:53(34), Numna-Heal/Rchg:53(37), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(46)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I:50(A), EndMod-I:50(21), EndMod-I:50(21)
Level 22: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 24: Recovery Aura -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(25), RechRdx-I:50(25)
Level 26: Regeneration Aura -- Dct'dW-Heal:50(A), Dct'dW-Rchg:50(27), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:50(27), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(34), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg:50(36), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(37)
Level 28: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(29), RechRdx-I:50(29)
Level 30: Cosmic Burst -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg:53(A), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun:53(31), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx:53(31), Stpfy-Stun/Rng:53(31), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg:53(37), Dmg-I:50(39)
Level 32: Adrenalin Boost -- Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(A), Numna-Heal/Rchg:50(33), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg:40(33), EndMod-I:50(33), EndMod-I:50(40)
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Level 41: Power Build Up -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(42), RechRdx-I:50(42)
Level 44: Temp Invulnerability -- TtmC'tng-ResDam:53(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg:53(45), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx:53(45)
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Level 49: Phase Shift -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(50)
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Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Vigilance
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Psydock · 09-25-2007 05:28 AM

add a heal/rech harmonized healing to ab, steal it from the dmg io in cosmic burst. Other then that the build looks great, you could take out an attack for conserve power and free up some slot for more movement in sj etc, but this build looks awsome .

X_treme · 09-25-2007 06:39 AM

imo u never need recharges in cm and AB shud be slotted 5 doctored wounds and 1 end mod. other than that the emp side is pretty much perfect

edit: put a travel stealth IO in SS or SJ and run stealth all the time, hello illu/emp trust me it will make ur life so much easier

Maelwys · 09-25-2007 07:55 AM

I'd stick a Stealth IO into Sprint rather than start slowing down the travel powers. That way you'd only need to turn it on once every 120secs for "perma invis".

Combat Jumping: If you're not getting a LOTG+ Recharge in this, then grab a Karma "Knockback Protection" IO for that default slot if at all possible. Reasoning for this is that when you get toggle dropped you'll still have a reasonable degree of mobility instead of getting bounced all over the place.

Looks fairly solid apart from that...

Hammerfall · 09-25-2007 08:41 AM

Sprint end drain is relatively bad, so you'd have to keep switching it off as well. Personally Id invest an extra slot in a travel power for stealth ios. I only got one currently, my stalker, with whom the io is in 4th slot of hover.

X_treme · 09-25-2007 08:42 AM

both my empath and thermal have SJ slotted with 3 travel/end HOs and 1 stealth IO

Psydock · 09-25-2007 08:55 AM

[ QUOTE ]

edit: put a travel stealth IO in SS or SJ and run stealth all the time, hello illu/emp trust me it will make ur life so much easier

[/ QUOTE ]

All you're lacking now is a power boost that recharges 50 seks faster

Maelwys · 09-25-2007 08:57 AM

Sprint has an instant activation/deactivation after all... The Stealth IO kicks in immediately, or at least semi-immediately (0.5 second activation or thereabouts IIRC), so turning it on and back off again every 120secs is IMO a very small price to pay.

Plus the fact that it really isn't all that endurance intensive to run even if you use it 24/7: Stealth + Sprint comes to (0.32 + 0.3 = 0.62) End per second unslotted. Superior Invis is 1.04 End per second unslotted.

I've a Stealth IO in my Stalker's "Sprint". I do sometimes run low on endurance... but that's not down to "Sprint", he has Assault/Tactics, too few slots (only @ level 30) and a complete lack of any other IOs...

X_treme · 09-25-2007 09:35 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

edit: put a travel stealth IO in SS or SJ and run stealth all the time, hello illu/emp trust me it will make ur life so much easier

[/ QUOTE ]

All you're lacking now is a power boost that recharges 50 seks faster

[/ QUOTE ]

i'll stick with the better buffs thanks

Hammerfall · 09-25-2007 11:44 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Sprint has an instant activation/deactivation after all... The Stealth IO kicks in immediately, or at least semi-immediately (0.5 second activation or thereabouts IIRC), so turning it on and back off again every 120secs is IMO a very small price to pay.

Plus the fact that it really isn't all that endurance intensive to run even if you use it 24/7: Stealth + Sprint comes to (0.32 + 0.3 = 0.62) End per second unslotted. Superior Invis is 1.04 End per second unslotted.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, and superior invis is likely to be unslotted too

Anyway, I was referring the the actual "remember to activate it every 120 seconds" thing. Would be nicer having it in a power that you actually use and have to activate regardless of stealth io or not. I have it in hover cause my stalker enters hover nearly always before AS (to kill the inertia from fly). Currently in Sirens call I am relying on stealth io+stealth+hide which is all nice and fine until I forget to activate hover beforehand and realize it by the time theres a scrapper trying to insert huge bonespikes to my ear.

Tainted_Greek_EU · 09-25-2007 12:01 PM

Ok Cap since i got a PvP Emp/rad here is my current live build atm:

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.21
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php

Tainted Greek: Level 50 Mutation Defender
Primary Power Set: Empathy
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Blast
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Ancillary Pool: Power Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Healing Aura -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx(A), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(3), Numna-Heal/Rchg(3), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Numna-Heal(5), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 1: Neutrino Bolt -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(17), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(19), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48)
Level 2: Heal Other -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Dct'dW-Heal(9), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 4: Absorb Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(11), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(11), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Dct'dW-Heal(13), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Jump-I(46), Jump-I(48), Jump-I(50)
Level 8: Clear Mind -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15), Range-I(45), Range-I(46)
Level 10: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(15), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(17)
Level 12: Fortitude -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(19), HO:Membr(21), LkGmblr-Rchg+(25), Range-I(25), Range-I(27)
Level 14: Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(21), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(23)
Level 16: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 18: Recovery Aura -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 20: Super Speed -- HO:Micro(A), HO:Micro(31)
Level 22: Phase Shift -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31), RechRdx-I(33)
Level 24: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A), Jump-I(33), Jump-I(33)
Level 26: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Dct'dW-Rchg(34), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(34), Dct'dW-Heal(34), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(36), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(36)
Level 28: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(36), EndMod-I(37)
Level 30: Regeneration Aura -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(37), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(37), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Dct'dW-Heal(39), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 32: Adrenalin Boost -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(39), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(40), Dct'dW-Heal(40), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 35: Super Jump -- HO:Micro(A), HO:Micro(46)
Level 38: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(42)
Level 41: Power Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(43), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 44: Temp Invulnerability -- ImpSkn-Status(A), Aegis-Psi/Status(45), HO:Ribo(48), HO:Ribo(50)
Level 47: Resurrect -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Vigilance
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Only thing i have to say regarding the controller vs empath thing is that the Defender despite lacking the powerboost recharge is clearly superior in buffing since can have higher quality buffs in all zones and is not restricted to RV and arena only. Thats is all. At level 50 situations what the controller misses on buff values makes up with powerboost.

If you need any help Cap feel free to contact me in game @Tainted Greek

Maelwys · 09-25-2007 12:24 PM

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Plus the fact that it really isn't all that endurance intensive to run even if you use it 24/7: Stealth + Sprint comes to (0.32 + 0.3 = 0.62) End per second unslotted. Superior Invis is 1.04 End per second unslotted.

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Yeah, and superior invis is likely to be unslotted too

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0.62 is virtually identical to what you'd get if you slotted Superior Invis with two Endred SOs. For a real-world comparison, a level 50 endred IO in Stealth's default slot brings it down to 0.52 End/Sec total for (Stealth + Sprint). Superior Invis 3-slotted with level 50 Endred IOs is also 0.52 End/Sec...

So they're functionally identical, except you need an extra two slots on Superior Invisibility to get it down to the same Endurance usage (and the suppression time when attacked- 6 secs for SI versus 10 secs for Stealth).
You could think of it as a trade-off: for an extra 4 secs suppression time you get two extra enhancement slots, and as a bonus you only actually *need* to turn sprint on once every 120secs so it can cost you less end.

The other factor to consider is that as a Defender, Vigilance will probably help take care of endurance issues. Putting the Stealth IO in Sprint might not be "better" than using SS or SJ, but it'd give him "stealth" at level 2, and save a slot without causing any real trouble... and slots appear to be at a premium in that build.

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Anyway, I was referring the the actual "remember to activate it every 120 seconds" thing. Would be nicer having it in a power that you actually use and have to activate regardless of stealth io or not. I have it in hover cause my stalker enters hover nearly always before AS (to kill the inertia from fly). Currently in Sirens call I am relying on stealth io+stealth+hide which is all nice and fine until I forget to activate hover beforehand and realize it by the time theres a scrapper trying to insert huge bonespikes to my ear.

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Aye. Unfortunately that's the downside to using the Stealth IOs at all. You need to stick them in a power you remember to use every 120 secs. Travel powers have problems with this: Hover and CJ tend to only be used when you're in close quarters with an enemy... Fly and SJ suppress and are incompatible with Hover/CJ. Only SS can be left on while attacking with no downside (other than endurance usage).

For me sprint is a good choice simply because I can toggle it on whether I'm currently using SJ or CJ... and I find it's fairly easy for me to remember to retoggle Sprint on my EM/Regen because the cycle time is identical to Dull Pain (120 secs). When I need to use Dull Pain, I know I can leave it until the "Dull Pain" buff icon on my tray starts blinking to turn sprint back on. By then my blue bar is usually full again anyway...

Hammerfall · 09-25-2007 02:15 PM

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0.62 is virtually identical to what you'd get if you slotted Superior Invis with two Endred SOs. For a real-world comparison, a level 50 endred IO in Stealth's default slot brings it down to 0.52 End/Sec total for (Stealth + Sprint). Superior Invis 3-slotted with level 50 Endred IOs is also 0.52 End/Sec...

So they're functionally identical, except you need an extra two slots on Superior Invisibility to get it down to the same Endurance usage (and the suppression time when attacked- 6 secs for SI versus 10 secs for Stealth).
You could think of it as a trade-off: for an extra 4 secs suppression time you get two extra enhancement slots, and as a bonus you only actually *need* to turn sprint on once every 120secs so it can cost you less end.

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However, you are investing a power pool slot (stealth) rather than having 1 power from primary..

X_treme · 09-25-2007 02:27 PM

as a pvp empath u really aren't gonna have time to be worrying about clickling on sprint every 120 secs or every time u get attacked. putting it in a power that is always on such as ss or sj is far more effective.

Maelwys · 09-25-2007 02:30 PM

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However, you are investing a power pool slot (stealth) rather than having 1 power from primary..

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True. It's a stepping stone to Phase Shift though...

What's the usual "PvP Empath" pools anyway? I'd assume Leaping and Fitness... Then two out of [Speed (Hasten/SS), Concealment (GI + Phase), Leadership (Buffs + Veng), Teleport (Recall/TP Self for Escaping)]?

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as a pvp empath u really aren't gonna have time to be worrying about clickling on sprint every 120 secs or every time u get attacked. putting it in a power that is always on such as ss or sj is far more effective.

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Assuming that's the case (I see no reason why an Empath couldn't work retoggling sprint into their buff cycle very easily since it has no activation time at all, the Fort cycle would be an ideal place to slot it in):

Firstly that assumes that SS or SJ are going to be used constantly (fine for SS, but you have to pick between CJ or SJ) and secondly it's still using an extra enhancement slot... keeping (Sprint + Stealth) on at all times works out as less costly than running Superior Invis would, especially with the Defender inherent... and Ill/Emps seem to have little or no Endurance issues.

Heck, if you were running Sprint 24/7 you could even free up a SECOND slot (from Superspeed, since you hit the speed cap with only one Level 50 Run IO + Sprint) and it would give you better unsuppressed movement!