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Test server is exploitable tho. It's still the best option tho, given the alternatives
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Whether someone has actually been using that is a different matter. Also there are now lots of people whose live build is just as good as what the exploitation build would be..
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And that's how it should always be. Inventions kill PvP, at least in EU. Only hardcore players can afford a min/max PvP build. If casuals were reluctant to play vs them when the difference were just HOs, go figure now
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IMO inventions enhance PvP, in a lot of ways.
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agreed, if ppl cant afford at least 1 IO'd build they need to leave icon alone 
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Not everyone can afford 200 million in just one build, and some that can, dont want to
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Basically I could maybe afford one tenth of that, on one character. I hate grinding.
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Test server is exploitable tho. It's still the best option tho, given the alternatives
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Whether someone has actually been using that is a different matter. Also there are now lots of people whose live build is just as good as what the exploitation build would be..
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And that's how it should always be. Inventions kill PvP, at least in EU. Only hardcore players can afford a min/max PvP build. If casuals were reluctant to play vs them when the difference were just HOs, go figure now
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IMO inventions enhance PvP, in a lot of ways.
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agreed, if ppl cant afford at least 1 IO'd build they need to leave icon alone
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Not everyone can afford 200 million in just one build, and some that can, dont want to
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yes they can and if they dont want to thats a completely different argument. maybe we shud scrap HOs cos some ppl dont want to earn them
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yes they can and if they dont want to thats a completely different argument. maybe we shud scrap HOs cos some ppl dont want to earn them
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read above, fact is, currently I cant afford to spend 20 mil on a build. And I cant be arsed to grind for the inf. I play eve instead currently.
Note: Im not against IOs. Im just stating facts.
200 mill on a build it will probebly cost more nowadays. Let's say you need 4 LOTG +recherge that's like 80 mill+ alone.
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200 mill on a build it will probebly cost more nowadays. Let's say you need 4 LOTG +recherge that's like 80 mill+ alone.
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u dont need those, i dont have any. u can easily make IO builds for well under 200million. especially when u take selling into account
Inventions are great and finally give some variety in the way people build pvp toons & allows more end heavy toons to be viable
thePhilosopher Martial Arts/Regen/Fire Scrapper
theRegulator Empathy/Energy/Soul Defender
Total Inertia Ice Blast/Kinetics/Psy Corruptor
Total Inferno Ice Blast/Thermal/Leviathan Corruptor
I think they should bring back katie hannon speed runs to make the prices go down a bit.
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Test server is exploitable tho.
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Not much of an issue for you though with all those 50s & 1 billion inf 
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*resists temptation*
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/Fail
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Test server is exploitable tho.
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Not much of an issue for you though with all those 50s & 1 billion inf
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*resists temptation*
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/Fail
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Zaldor stop posting and come online to fill up god damn you we need fillers
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Basically I could maybe afford one tenth of that, on one character. I hate grinding.
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Aye same here, and dont forget not everybody god an uber-leet-farming toon just to fuel their pvp toons, or a second account to PL pvp toons etc etc.. like i said earlier, its that little barrier between casual and hardcore PvPers that needs to be worn down.
Of course its easy to say "well those that arent willing to put effort in it, should just [censored]" (exaggerated of course..) but instead of ignoring the problem like that, which you basically do by saying that, you should try to find a way to get people more involved.
For instance with casual events I presume, events not only forum regulars and hardcore pvpers will attend. Nothing wrong with the current events, but its not really helping. Maybe something like the arena night on test server but on live server as well. Dont think moving all pvp to test and then whinge that live server pvp is dead is the answer. I remember trying to set up such an event, then got shot down by quite a few hardcore pvpers cause it wasnt "hardcore" enough.
Please note that this isnt a dig at all the hardcore pvpers cause i got a few pvp builds myself as well, just tryin to keep an open discussion bout how to solve the problem.
"god, how many devs did hami have to sleep with to get ED?"
Total Cat @Stagefright
I'm not much of an expert on MMOs in general but isnt it common that people that play more have better weapons, armour, magic etc. IOed builds arent much different.
thePhilosopher Martial Arts/Regen/Fire Scrapper
theRegulator Empathy/Energy/Soul Defender
Total Inertia Ice Blast/Kinetics/Psy Corruptor
Total Inferno Ice Blast/Thermal/Leviathan Corruptor
aye.. imo IOd builds are nice, give you a nice advantage, but still i dont see it radically changing a set to "uber-unbeatable mode". As said earlier in this thread I think it kinda balances it a bit.
"god, how many devs did hami have to sleep with to get ED?"
Total Cat @Stagefright
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Test server is exploitable tho. It's still the best option tho, given the alternatives
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Whether someone has actually been using that is a different matter. Also there are now lots of people whose live build is just as good as what the exploitation build would be..
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And that's how it should always be. Inventions kill PvP, at least in EU. Only hardcore players can afford a min/max PvP build. If casuals were reluctant to play vs them when the difference were just HOs, go figure now
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IMO inventions enhance PvP, in a lot of ways.
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agreed, if ppl cant afford at least 1 IO'd build they need to leave icon alone
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Not everyone can afford 200 million in just one build, and some that can, dont want to
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Why not? Influence is easy earnt, what use is it gathered on a toon doing sweet fa?