Bots/FF need some advice please
Unless Photon Grenade has been improved greatly recently I would skip it.
Your protector bots have a better version of it anyway.
I wouldn't bother with acrobatics either, your bots should be getting all the agro.
Also, you might want to get stamina if you are going to use the personal attacks.
They do use a lot of endurance.
Plus with Assault, Tactics and Dispersion Bubble running you would have trouble.
(these will all need to be heavily slotted for end-reduction if you want to go stamina-less in any case)
Repulsion Bomb is not a good power for a bots mm.. might want to skip that one.
To get the best out of them you need to group enemies in a bunch as much as possible.
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Unless Photon Grenade has been improved greatly recently I would skip it.
Your protector bots have a better version of it anyway.
I wouldn't bother with acrobatics either, your bots should be getting all the agro.
Also, you might want to get stamina if you are going to use the personal attacks.
They do use a lot of endurance.
Plus with Assault, Tactics and Dispersion Bubble running you would have trouble.
(these will all need to be heavily slotted for end-reduction if you want to go stamina-less in any case)
Repulsion Bomb is not a good power for a bots mm.. might want to skip that one.
To get the best out of them you need to group enemies in a bunch as much as possible.
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I agree with these comments. I have a ninja/FF MM and I never had any really issue with KB, so i wouldn't take acro. Using the leaping pool is good though as cj defense stacks with that of dispersion bubble.
I never needed stamina until I was in my 40s when it became much more useful for running all the bubbles, leadership pool & armour. Its also particularly useful if you want to pvp with running the above & spamming your immob & hold powers. Consider PFF if you want to pvp, a good blaster will get though, but its fun seeing melee toons trying to whittle your health down. Its not a must have power, but fun if you have the room, and can be used to take the alpha from AVs in large teams.
You can free slots by dropping acro, repulsion bomb, and your personal attack powers, you will be able to lvl quickly enough by just using your bots for damage.
You will not have trouble lvling with the build you have put up either if you want to give it a try & respec later out of any of the powers you decide to drop.
Paragon Girl
Hi I am doing this at the moment, Lvl 47 and flying wasting EB's solo and AVs when I have a Brute to stop them wasting the Bots. Not on the build is that Battle and Protector Bots have Fulls sets of Blood Mandate and I have Edict of the Master in Assault Bot (The pet Defnce Unique IO at the moment only).
Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.20
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php
Control Unit 1: Level 50 Technology Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Robotics
Secondary Power Set: Force Field
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Medicine
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Battle Drones -- Acc-I:35(A), Acc-I:35(3), Acc-I:35(3), Dmg-I:35(5), Dmg-I:35(5), Dmg-I:35(7)
Level 1: Force Bolt -- Acc-I:35(A), Acc-I:35(43)
Level 2: Pulse Rifle Burst -- Acc-I:35(A), Acc-I:35(9), Dmg-I:35(11), Dmg-I:35(36), Dmg-I:35(37)
Level 4: Deflection Shield -- DefBuff-I:35(A), DefBuff-I:35(7), DefBuff-I:35(9), EndRdx-I:35(34), EndRdx-I:35(39)
Level 6: Equip Robot -- EndRdx-I:35(A)
Level 8: Swift -- Flight-I:35(A)
Level 10: Hover -- Flight-I:35(A), Flight-I:35(11)
Level 12: Protector Bots -- Acc-I:35(A), Acc-I:35(13), Dmg-I:35(13), Dmg-I:35(15), Dmg-I:35(17), EndRdx-I:35(17)
Level 14: Fly -- Flight-I:35(A), Flight-I:35(15)
Level 16: Aid Other -- Heal-I:35(A), Heal-I:35(19), Heal-I:35(19), IntRdx-I:35(33), IntRdx-I:35(33), RechRdx-I:35(33)
Level 18: Health -- Heal-I:35(A)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I:35(A), EndMod-I:35(21), EndMod-I:35(21)
Level 22: Dispersion Bubble -- DefBuff-I:35(A), DefBuff-I:35(23), DefBuff-I:35(23), EndRdx-I:35(34), EndRdx-I:35(37)
Level 24: Insulation Shield -- DefBuff-I:35(A), DefBuff-I:35(25), DefBuff-I:35(25), EndRdx-I:35(34), EndRdx-I:35(37), EndRdx-I:35(46)
Level 26: Assault Bot -- Acc-I:35(A), Acc-I:35(27), Dmg-I:35(27), Dmg-I:35(29), Dmg-I:35(29), EndRdx-I:35(31)
Level 28: Maneuvers -- DefBuff-I:35(A), DefBuff-I:35(31), DefBuff-I:35(40), EndRdx-I:35(40), EndRdx-I:35(43)
Level 30: Tactics -- ToHit-I:35(A), ToHit-I:35(31), ToHit-I:35(39), EndRdx-I:35(39), Empty(40)
Level 32: Upgrade Robot -- EndRdx-I:35(A), EndRdx-I:35(36)
Level 35: Assault -- EndRdx-I:35(A), EndRdx-I:35(36)
Level 38: Aid Self -- Heal-I:35(A)
Level 41: Scorpion Shield -- EndRdx-I:35(A), EndRdx-I:35(42), DefBuff-I:35(42), DefBuff-I:35(42), DefBuff-I:35(43)
Level 44: Web Envelope -- Acc-I:35(A), Acc-I:35(45), Immob-I:35(45), Immob-I:35(45), Immob-I:35(46), RechRdx-I:35(46)
Level 47: Web Cocoon -- Acc-I:35(A), Acc-I:35(48), Hold-I:35(48), Hold-I:35(48), RechRdx-I:35(50)
Level 49: Group Fly -- EndRdx-I:35(A), Flight-I:35(50), Flight-I:35(50)
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Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Supremacy
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Anyway hope this helps and have fun. ainly for PvE, but on the one sortie I have had in PvP so far in Recluse Victory I had no probles holding y own against two heros at the same time.
Here's my planned build:
Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.153
http://www.onthejazz.co.uk/hu/mhd.php
This character has 67 un-placed slot(s).
Zombie Robo-Hobo: Level 50 Science Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Robotics
Secondary Power Set: Force Field
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Flight
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Battle Drones -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Force Bolt -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Deflection Shield -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Insulation Shield -- Empty(A)
Level 6: Equip Robot -- Empty(A)
Level 8: Assault -- Empty(A)
Level 10: Hover -- Empty(A)
Level 12: Protector Bots -- Empty(A)
Level 14: Fly -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 18: Health -- Empty(A)
Level 20: Stamina -- Empty(A)
Level 22: Tactics -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Dispersion Bubble -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Assault Bot -- Empty(A)
Level 28: Repair -- Empty(A)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Upgrade Robot -- Empty(A)
Level 35: Personal Force Field -- Empty(A)
Level 38: Force Bubble -- Empty(A)
Level 41: Scorpion Shield -- Empty(A)
Level 44: Pulse Rifle Blast -- Empty(A)
Level 47: Pulse Rifle Burst -- Empty(A)
Level 49: Stealth -- Empty(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Supremacy
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
I intended it to be without Stamina and take the Patron attacks, but even at lvl 12 with almost nothing but end reducers and Assault and Maneuvers running (different to the build here), I can only buff my 3 bots and 3 party members before I run out of end. That's even with my toggles off, never mind doing it in the heat of battle.
@Jay Leon Hart
Kerensky: this has nothing to do with underwear
Zwillinger: I put on my robe and wizard hat...
Synapse: I had to resist starting my last post off with "Yo dawg!"
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I intended it to be without Stamina and take the Patron attacks, but even at lvl 12 with almost nothing but end reducers and Assault and Maneuvers running (different to the build here), I can only buff my 3 bots and 3 party members before I run out of end. That's even with my toggles off, never mind doing it in the heat of battle.
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Wait til you get Dispersion Bubble, that uses as much endurance as assault and tactics together.
I have two end-reds each in assault and tactics and 3 in dispersion bubble.
Also an end-red in Deflection and Insulation shield helps you keep bubbling.
Stamina-less is doable but does need very heavy slotting with End-Red SOs.
IOs and inventions should help a great deal as well I think.
I tried a Build with Health and the +recovery IOs and no Stamina - 2.67 recovery, 2.41 drain, with all toggles except hover and stealth 3 slotted for end reduction
@Jay Leon Hart
Kerensky: this has nothing to do with underwear
Zwillinger: I put on my robe and wizard hat...
Synapse: I had to resist starting my last post off with "Yo dawg!"
[ QUOTE ]
This is my build plan. So far I'm lvl 12 and loving it. If its possible I would like some advice if you think my power choices are Ok and I would like some advice on enhancements
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Name: Kramious
Level: 50
Archetype: Mastermind
Primary: Robotics
Secondary: Force Field
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01) --> Force Bolt==> Empty(1)
02) --> Pulse Rifle Burst==> Empty(2)
04) --> Deflection Shield==> Empty(4)
06) --> Equip Robot==> Empty(6)
08) --> Insulation Shield==> Empty(8)
10) --> Combat Jumping==> Empty(10)
12) --> Protector Bots==> Empty(12)
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16) --> Aid Other==> Empty(16)
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20) --> Dispersion Bubble==> Empty(20)
22) --> Photon Grenade==> Empty(22)
24) --> Aid Self==> Empty(24)
26) --> Assault Bot==> Empty(26)
28) --> Acrobatics==> Empty(28)
30) --> Assault==> Empty(30)
32) --> Upgrade Robot==> Empty(32)
35) --> Repulsion Bomb==> Empty(35)
38) --> Force Bubble==> Empty(38)
41) --> Tactics==> Empty(41)
44) --> Static Discharge==> Empty(44)
47) --> Electrifying Fences==> Empty(47)
49) --> Electric Shackles==> Empty(49)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
01) --> Supremacy==> Empty(1)
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Nice to see Repair in there but I'd have Aid Self in at 18, I'd drop the AoE blast for Personal Forcefield which move Assault to 24, Tactics to 28 and Acrobatics to 30 for you.
Then I'd drop Static Discharge and take the resistance shield at 41 with the AoE immob at 44. 47 would then be the hold and at 49 I'd get Repair back in.
Alternative would be to drop Repulsion Bomb at 35 and move Repair in and 49 I'd probably pickup Recall Friend.
This is my build plan. So far I'm lvl 12 and loving it. If its possible I would like some advice if you think my power choices are Ok and I would like some advice on enhancements
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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name: Kramious
Level: 50
Archetype: Mastermind
Primary: Robotics
Secondary: Force Field
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01) --> Force Bolt==> Empty(1)
02) --> Pulse Rifle Burst==> Empty(2)
04) --> Deflection Shield==> Empty(4)
06) --> Equip Robot==> Empty(6)
08) --> Insulation Shield==> Empty(8)
10) --> Combat Jumping==> Empty(10)
12) --> Protector Bots==> Empty(12)
14) --> Super Jump==> Empty(14)
16) --> Aid Other==> Empty(16)
18) --> Repair==> Empty(18)
20) --> Dispersion Bubble==> Empty(20)
22) --> Photon Grenade==> Empty(22)
24) --> Aid Self==> Empty(24)
26) --> Assault Bot==> Empty(26)
28) --> Acrobatics==> Empty(28)
30) --> Assault==> Empty(30)
32) --> Upgrade Robot==> Empty(32)
35) --> Repulsion Bomb==> Empty(35)
38) --> Force Bubble==> Empty(38)
41) --> Tactics==> Empty(41)
44) --> Static Discharge==> Empty(44)
47) --> Electrifying Fences==> Empty(47)
49) --> Electric Shackles==> Empty(49)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
01) --> Supremacy==> Empty(1)
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