nrg/fire or elec/fire


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im realy realy stuck on what brute to make i mean i love the emense dmg u can do with nrg and i now the heal on fire is sick but i cant decide on is that ive heard elec is quite gd with fire can anyone help me resolve this problem ?
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Either of these are good for PvE i think elec would go well with fire for awsome AOE damage (Fire is also amazing).

Energy would be good for single target damage, killing bosses and EB's wouldnt be as bother as elec.

Have you got a certain concept in mind?


 

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im thinkin bout a PvP char


 

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ahh vpp i'd prob say EM then..

but I've always thought doing Lightning Rod to Burn in a pvp mob has got to look quiet nice


 

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for PvE I dont think you can beat Elec for its AoEs, for PvP I dont think there's a weaker ST brute set than Elec.

EM is strong ST damage, and nice for PvP, but I'd rather have an AoE brute in PvE.

Fire Melee is actually fairly high ST damage and high AoE damage, but lacks something in the status effects. As in, it has none


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right ive made a em/fire brute nxt part of this is slotting how would u guys sujest i slot my power ? (ty for all the help)


 

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I have a EN / Fire in build, 8 atm!!

For PVP slot all attacks with 3acc 3 dam...Thats if you can spare if not. 2 acc 3 dam will do fine. I say 3acc incase u come across a scrapper with elude, etc.

You want your heal 6 slotted 3 heal 3 rechrge.

Get the SJ travel pool for Acrobatics and you may also want SS for Hasten. SS and SJ is the best set for pvp.

If you can, get Tough and weave, i have managed to fit it in my build but weave is very opptional, most people will not recommend it.

Dont get Whirling Hands and not barrage....To build fury just use, Brawl, Energy Punch, Bone Smasher!!

Most Squishies will die with BU + FE + Total Smasher + Energy Transfer...

If your against scrappers...Regens for example, you want to get them so they cant heal, scrap with them using your fury building chain....Brawl + Energy Punch + Bone Smasher then when this is full Pop BU + FE then Total Smasher + Energy Transfer..Then finsh with BS and EP then with hasten running you should have Energy Transfer back up to do the final blow.

Dont get Burn from fiery aura and the rez is opptional but i recommend it, if a scrapper kills u then click that, consume, TF retoggle ET then Fury building chain.

I also think Stun would be a good option, all of your attacks come with +Disorient (spelling bad lol) but some Regens will have high resist or defense (not sure) to this so it will help stack!!

Thats as much as i can think of rite now, its very late and have prob got a couple things wrong shout if i have.

I will go make a PvP build now for you........


 

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which PVP zone are you intending to aim for? If its BB and Sirens call the most devastating brute chain is delivered by Stone Melee AND has a mag 4 (acro breaking) hold in seizmic smash.

Post 32 energy pips it.


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I have a EN / Fire in build, 8 atm!!

For PVP slot all attacks with 3acc 3 dam...Thats if you can spare if not. 2 acc 3 dam will do fine. I say 3acc incase u come across a scrapper with elude, etc.


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3 acc in attacks is not going to hit through elude unless you are popping yellows like mad.

Ignore conventional slotting advice and work out IO numbers based on mixed multi aspect sets, I run (in all attacks) 95 dam, 80 acc, 95 recharge and 58 end reduction. The benefits from mixed sets outweigh specific set bonuses by a significant margin.


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Name:San
Level: 50
Archetype: Brute
Primary: Energy Melee
Secondary: Fiery Aura
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01) --> Energy Punch==> Acc(1)Acc(3)Dmg(15)Dmg(15)Dmg(34)Acc(45)
01) --> Fire Shield==> DmgRes(1)DmgRes(3)DmgRes(7)EndRdx(34)EndRdx(37)
02) --> Bone Smasher==> Acc(2)Acc(5)Dmg(13)Dmg(13)Dmg(19)Acc(45)
04) --> Healing Flames==> Rechg(4)Rechg(5)Rechg(7)Heal(9)Heal(11)Heal(11)
06) --> Build Up==> Rechg(6)Rechg(9)Rechg(17)
08) --> Combat Jumping==> DefBuf(8)
10) --> Hurdle==> Jump(10)Jump(48)
12) --> Boxing==> Acc(12)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)Jump(40)Jump(46)
16) --> Plasma Shield==> DmgRes(16)DmgRes(17)DmgRes(19)EndRdx(36)EndRdx(37)
18) --> Total Focus==> Acc(18)Acc(21)Dmg(21)Dmg(23)Dmg(25)Acc(45)
20) --> Health==> Heal(20)
22) --> Stamina==> EndMod(22)EndMod(23)EndMod(25)
24) --> Hasten==> Rechg(24)Rechg(27)Rechg(27)
26) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(26)EndRdx(29)
28) --> Stun==> Acc(28)Acc(29)DisDur(31)DisDur(37)DisDur(43)
30) --> Tough==> DmgRes(30)DmgRes(31)DmgRes(31)EndRdx(40)EndRdx(40)
32) --> Energy Transfer==> Acc(32)Acc(33)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)Dmg(34)Acc(43)
35) --> Fiery Embrace==> Rechg(35)Rechg(36)Rechg(36)
38) --> Consume==> Acc(38)Acc(39)EndMod(39)EndMod(39)Rechg(46)Rechg(50)
41) --> Weave==> DefBuf(41)DefBuf(42)DefBuf(42)EndRdx(42)EndRdx(43)
44) --> Super Speed==> Run(44)Run(46)
47) --> Temperature Protection==> DmgRes(47)DmgRes(48)DmgRes(48)
49) --> Rise of the Phoenix==> Rechg(49)Rechg(50)Rechg(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
01) --> Fury==> Empty(1)
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Ok this build is only a quick one so, you may not want to follow the slotting. Slot your toon as what you think needs doing as you level up.

I have put the 3rd acc in the attacks as the last enhancment to show that it is opptional and that you may want to put them else where.

The build is not end heavy atall with the end redx and consume, you may want to swap an end mod or rechrg in Consume to make sure u have more chance to hit with it if up against high defense foes!!

I would like to team up with you sometime as i am a Energy / Fire brute aswell....Gimmie a tell in game

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you have no attack chain, without getting the recharge of your 2 big moves down you wont be able to do a great deal except kite a quick kill (squishy) then go away for 15 seconds as you wait for your moves to recharge. TF and ET have a 20 second recharge on them and hasten just isnt enough.

Sit down and plan out a IO build, go to the inventions forum and search out mids I9 compliant herobuilder, it will fix all problems. And a recharge SO over the 3rd acc slot is a far better investment for pvp.


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oki doki, ill get working on an IO build 2moza when i get from college and try and cut the recharge times down a little.


 

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thanks for all the help guys it has been realy helpful i intend to go for sirens btw


 

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If you are going for sirens make a SM/Fire, it hits much harder and fires the moves off faster than nrg does (total focus animation time 3.3 seconds, seizmic smash 1.5)

Make your attack chain air sup, stone mallet, heavy mallet and seizmic smash (You have plenty of power choices left with fire armour for air sup and ss + sj +acro at 30) Tough is pointless as your mitigation will be your uber heal. aim to get as many accolades as you can for 30, +20% hitpoints always helps. You can go without acro with a couple of KB IOs but exemping screws these up atm so you are safer keeping acro in your build.

I literally dinged my SM/Fire at 50 yesterday, it was lvl 30 when i9 hit and I solod it with my own arcs with a few short periods of teaming. With IOs its an unstoppable monster and at 30 nothing hits harder villain side.

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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Brute
Primary: Stone Melee
Secondary: Fiery Aura
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01) --> Stone Mallet==> Empty(1)
01) --> Fire Shield==> Empty(1)
02) --> Heavy Mallet==> Empty(2)
04) --> Healing Flames==> Empty(4)
06) --> Build Up==> Empty(6)
08) --> Hasten==> Empty(8)
10) --> Temperature Protection==> Empty(10)
12) --> Hurdle==> Empty(12)
14) --> Super Speed==> Empty(14)
16) --> Plasma Shield==> Empty(16)
18) --> Seismic Smash==> Empty(18)
20) --> Health==> Empty(20)
22) --> Stamina==> Empty(22)
24) --> Combat Jumping==> Empty(24)
26) --> Super Jump==> Empty(26)
28) --> Acrobatics==> Empty(28)
30) --> Fault==> Empty(30)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
01) --> Fury==> Empty(1)
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thuged quick question what sever u play on ?


 

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I play on Union, why? u on Union aswel?


 

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If your up to lvl, ill team with you in sirens some time, got my EM / Regen up to 29 and sirens atm is great


 

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yea i am was jus wondering coz o couldnt find u to start with m8