Illusion / Storm and Power Boost


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Apologies for this, I know there have been a fair few PB questions before but I'm gonna ask anyway as I'm being set specific for clarity.

I respecced Carni last night since Ice Storm was so unused as my level 47 power I figured I could do much better.

So I went with Primal Forces for Power Boosted Freezing Rain. But when I went to test I couldn't see any different in the damage Power Blast was doing with PBd and non-PBd Freezing Rain, the Damage Resistance debuff didn't seem any more powerful. My test victims were level 35 Crey policemen (the blue uniform guys).

So :
Does Power Boost increase all of the debuffs on Placeable Debuffs like Freezing Rain or Disruption arrow?

If FR does benefit I assume you need to PB and then FR, otherwise the placeable is normal?

If so what happens when the DmgResist debuff is greater than their DmgResist? Does their resistance become negative or does it just floor to 0? I know the Phantasm has -DmgResistance vs Neg NRG so -DmgResist is possible ingame.

For toggles like Snow Storm how does the Power Boost work. Looking at No Future SnowStorm does 0.75 second duration slows. I'm guessing these are boosted while PB is running?

Hurricane has a 30% 10 second Accuracy debuff. If PB is running and a mob runs into it I assume this becomes a 10 sec 60% debuff. As it doesn't stack subsequent debuffs are ignored until the current 10 second debuff wears off. The converse is also probably true, if you've a mob in Hurricane normally and you PB the 60% won't kick in until the current 10 second 30% wears off?

Does Power Boost work for other placeable pets like the Fear of Spectral Terror or the Stuns & debuffs of Tornado

Also does anyone know if Spectral Terrors inability to take ToHit debuffs is WAI? According to NoFuture Spectral Terror has a Cloak of Fear aura with a 15% tohit debuff and a single target Terrorise with another 15%. These are so high I'm guess this may be WAI (drat, I wasted 3 slots on this. Roll on the i8 vet respecs)


 

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As far as I know Power Boost doesn't boost resistance buffs or debuffs. Can't help you with the other questions though.


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the Damage Resistance debuff didn't seem any more powerful.

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PB doesn't affect Resistance debuffs.

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Does Power Boost increase all of the debuffs on Placeable Debuffs like Freezing Rain or Disruption arrow?

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It does affect summons, so for example it would affect the -def and movement slow (not -rchg) of FR.

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If FR does benefit I assume you need to PB and then FR, otherwise the placeable is normal?

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Yes.

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For toggles like Snow Storm how does the Power Boost work. Looking at No Future SnowStorm does 0.75 second duration slows. I'm guessing these are boosted while PB is running

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Yes, only while PB is active.

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Hurricane has a 30% 10 second Accuracy debuff. If PB is running and a mob runs into it I assume this becomes a 10 sec 60% debuff. As it doesn't stack subsequent debuffs are ignored until the current 10 second debuff wears off. The converse is also probably true, if you've a mob in Hurricane normally and you PB the 60% won't kick in until the current 10 second 30% wears off?

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Unfortunately my /storm is still 6 levels away from PB, so can't test it yet but I would guess it kicks in immediately when PB is activated.

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Does Power Boost work for other placeable pets like the Fear of Spectral Terror or the Stuns & debuffs of Tornado

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Yes, again, only during the duration of PB.

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Also does anyone know if Spectral Terrors inability to take ToHit debuffs is WAI? According to NoFuture Spectral Terror has a Cloak of Fear aura with a 15% tohit debuff and a single target Terrorise with another 15%. These are so high I'm guess this may be WAI (drat, I wasted 3 slots on this. Roll on the i8 vet respecs)

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I would guess it is WAI. I've only ever slotted Acc Fear and Range in it.


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As far as I know Power Boost doesn't boost resistance buffs or debuffs. Can't help you with the other questions though.

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Gah, stupid lack of coherent ingame information. Most of the reason to pick Primal was for Powerboosted Freezing Rain!

Cheers for the answers guys. Not sure which Epic to pick now at all. PBd Hurricane and the Def &amp; Slow of FR is probably still worth it on balance. The total accuracy debuff for my char could be 30 + 30 + 60 = 120% with PB, 2 Fear Accuracy debuffs and Hurricane, thats nasty.

I missed Hibernate when I got gunned down or sapped by Malta last night.

My Grav / TA controller is probably going to have to change his mind on what Epic to pick though. Guess it'll be Fire after all now.


 

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Personally I would go for the Fire epic when you're /storm.

Fire shield is brilliant combined with Steamy Mist and the obvious Fireball/Fire blast and to a lesser extent Consume are great.

/Storm doesnt benefit much from PB as Gen 2 and Okt has said so Fire would definately be it for me.

Hibernate is a nice power though


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Personally I would go for the Fire epic when you're /storm.

Fire shield is brilliant combined with Steamy Mist and the obvious Fireball/Fire blast and to a lesser extent Consume are great.

/Storm doesnt benefit much from PB as Gen 2 and Okt has said so Fire would definately be it for me.

Hibernate is a nice power though

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Thought about Fire but Illusion has little in the way of AOE Containment powers so Fire doesn't do as well as with a Fire/Storm or Earth/Storm.

Also Fire doesn't fit at all with character concept, its either Primal Forces which fits my primary well, or Ice which fits Storm well thematically. I couldn't live with myself if Carni started throwing Fireballs

Maloth on the other hand can't wait to get his robotic little claws on Fireball


 

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hehe....damn you and your concepts Carni

Well....if it's between Primal and Ice it's really up to playstyle.

Ice wins on the single target blast

Primal wins on the armor.

Hibernate is awesome.

Power Boost is normal circumstances awesome aswell....but not as much for this combo.

Conserve Power is good. Quite handy with /storm but a long recharge.

Ice Storm is ok with freezing rain and snow storm and maybe spec terror...ok...but not great.

If you're comfortable with Hibernate I would probably stick with Ice.


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I'm actually playing Ice Mastery with my ice/storm but I did consider the option of Fire for some early extra damage (and better shield). I finally opted for the safety of Hibernate, the stacking slows and the extra AoE control of Ice Storm (also I've already played Fire, Primal and Psi on other controllers). But I might still switch to Primal after 47 depending on how things go... PB is still too good


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hehe....damn you and your concepts Carni

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I know Fires AOE Blast, Shield &amp; Consume would be fairly Ok for me too. No AOE Containment mostly but thats not the be all and end all.

I'm currently on Primal with the Blast, Conserve &amp; Powerboost. Powerboosted Hurricane &amp; Spectral Terror is quite nice, as it the bonus in Slow in Freezing Rain &amp; it makes Flash pretty useful too.

Conserve came in handy last night fighting Dominatrix on a team, but Hibernate would have been as good since I've so many pets &amp; placeables. Drop em and freeze up to regain End. And it would have saved me from faceplanting earlier in the same mish when a +5 Lady beat me to death.

The issue with Ice Storm is in the 40s you just cut through groups too quickly. I can only get PAs, Freezing Rain &amp; Snow Storm down and the bunch is mostly dead from the team firepower. And solo its little use to me too.

Reckon I'll continue with Primal for a week or so and revert to Cold if I miss Hibernate too much.