ice/energy advice plz


beyondtrial

 

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Didnt seem to popular a combo when checking the forums, so thought id give it a go. Mainly built for pvp.....any advise would be appreciated
Out of interest, although im liking it and will be continuing, is there a reason for very few ice/ene builds
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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Dominator
Primary: Ice Control
Secondary: Energy Assault
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01) --> Block of Ice==> Hold(1) Hold(3) Hold(3) Acc(5) Acc(5) Rechg(7)
01) --> Power Bolt==> Acc(1) Acc(7) Dmg(11) Dmg(13)
02) --> Bone Smasher==> Acc(2) Acc(9) Dmg(9) Dmg(11) Dmg(13) EndRdx(50)
04) --> Chilblain==> Acc(4) Acc(15) Slow(15) Slow(17)
06) --> Arctic Air==> EndRdx(6) EndRdx(17) EndRdx(19) ConfDur(19) ConfDur(21) ConfDur(43)
08) --> Hasten==> Rechg(8) Rechg(23) Rechg(31)
10) --> Hurdle==> Jump(10) Jump(27)
12) --> Ice Slick==> Rechg(12) EndRdx(21)
14) --> Super Speed==> EndRdx(14) Run(48)
16) --> Power Boost==> Rechg(16) Rechg(23) Rechg(25)
18) --> Health==> Heal(18)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(25) EndMod(27)
22) --> Aid Other==> Heal(22)
24) --> Aid Self==> Heal(24) Heal(31) IntRdx(31) IntRdx(33) IntRdx(33) EndRdx(33)
26) --> Glacier==> Acc(26) Acc(34) Hold(36) Hold(36) EndRdx(45)
28) --> Total Focus==> Acc(28) Acc(29) Dmg(29) Dmg(34) Dmg(34) EndRdx(43)
30) --> Stealth==> EndRdx(30)
32) --> Jack Frost==> Acc(32) Acc(36) Hold(37) Dmg(37) Dmg(39)
35) --> Sniper Blast==> Acc(35) Acc(37) Dmg(39) Dmg(39) Dmg(40) EndRdx(46)
38) --> Power Burst==> Acc(38) Acc(40) Dmg(40) Dmg(42) EndRdx(46)
41) --> Charged Armor==> DmgRes(41) DmgRes(42) DmgRes(42) EndRdx(43)
44) --> Power Sink==> Rechg(44) Rechg(45) Rechg(45) EndMod(46)
47) --> Summon Guardian==> Acc(47) Acc(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(50)
49) --> Power Push==> Acc(49) Acc(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Domination==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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I have ice/ice at level 50 and mind/nrg at level 24, so trying to imagine what the combo would be like. I'm not a huge fan of /nrg because I find it a slow set, but it seems relatively easy on endurance so far, and a good thing is both ice/ and /nrg are melee centric.

First of all, I think you need more attacks from your secondary early on. Otherwise you'll struggle building Domination and killing things, or you'll have to resort to Chillblain for damage, and that will absolutely destroy your endurance. Consider taking Power Blast. In pvp too, ranged attacks rule. While insignificant for damage, you can use them and your slows to kite melee ATs while building Domination. The single target attacks in secondary are a key to building Domination, especially in PvP.

For a PvP build, I'd consider getting Shiver in there. It's not that great in PvE, but for PvP I consider it almost a must have.

Personally I consider snipes a waste for a dominator. With our ranged damage modifier the burst damage is not significant enough, and for controlled targets you have better options for DPS in your melee attacks. For the melee attacks, I'd replace endrdx slotting with recharge unless you're really starving for endurance.

Slot Jack Frost for 1 acc, 3 damage first. Then more acc and hold if you really want to. He's pants in PvP most of the time because he can't keep up. If I made a true level 50 PvP build I'd leave him out altogether. In PvE he's essential, though.


 

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I have a quick question for Idris
Would i be correct in assuming Arctic Air has a stealth element ?
I'm sure i read someplace that it does but it dosn't say so ingame on the power description.


Defiant's GoEH/MILITIS METUS

 

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No, it has a -stealth element on enemies though


 

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Ah ok
I knew about the -stealth but was sure it gave yourself and your team stealth.
Guess not


Defiant's GoEH/MILITIS METUS

 

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I'd slot Glacier with 2hold,2acc,2recharge, and stick 3 recharge in ice slick


 

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From the experience of playing my lvl 28 Mind/energy, I hereby list the /energy powers that I have so far found to be good:

power boost


 

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Oh yes, don't know how I missed the Ice Slick slotting. Your primary slotting is a bit off in general, slotting slow recharge control powers like Ice Slick and Glacier for endurance reduction doesn't really make sense. Spammed powers and expensive toggles are generally best choice for endred slotting.


 

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up to lvl 23 now, and loving this toon. Mainly been soloing or teaming with a corruptor, and relentless missions run with ease. Iv changed the slotting slightly, but not to any great extent and things seem to be going well. Taken power push in place of stealth purely for pve in the meantime, which ill swap over with shiver when i hit 30 for pvp. Artic air i really aint to sure about, tbh iv never used it once in pve, partly as the spawns are only 2/3 and theres no need, but also as it doesnt seem make a massive difference....is it worth keeping for higher lvl?

Back to the slotting again, the end reductions i put in most attacks, apart from powers that make a big difference in the damage/hold areas. Block of ice, is the only attack i use as soon as its recharged without an end reduction in it, as imo 6 slotting this with hold/acc/recharge is essential. Glacier, didnt pay to much attention to the recharge time..wow..no end red there, might actually do without as iv heard its not up to much, and aoe in pvp not really my cuppa tea.

Appreciate the help


 

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Ive played a fire/em dom till past lv32 and I vaguely remember getting a big hit ranged attack which I was thoroughly unimpressed with after having total focus. I believe this means that your lv38 power can be missed for something more useful. It also has a very short range, probably double melee range; so I think its 1 of the worse lv38 powers Ive seen.

I havent seen anyone else praise total focus but with domination its double damage, u cant really go wrong. When I was playing this I was a noob and though flurry looked cool, so I can comment on how fast this would build domination compared with my current lv11 ice/thorns. I left arctic air till lv26 (in place of the AoE hold with too long a recharge and -20% accuracy penalty). I like to think that on a team I can contribute with arctic air and mitigate some incoming damage with a -65% recharge debuff; it takes a bit of finese to use as an alpha and not face plant though. When I get ice slick and aid self by lvl 14 I should comfortably be able to take the alpha strike or at least assist the brute on his alpha.

I do think a dom is a team orientated build (especially out of the box with AoE power and no defence or healing).

Oh and I solo'ed a villainous vampiri elite boss, from Angello Vendretti's mish; easily when I had domination. Only realising it was an EB when he was held with half health. Id say there is some pretty good damage potential in ice/spines.


 

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I have total focus and consider it mediocre.. If devs would lower its endurance cost to be in line with its relatively mediocre damage I would maybe up my rating.. My blaster does.. well a LOT more damage with the same endurance cost besides having conserve power from the same set as well.. Im spamming enough many powers as is and theres four powers in my mind primary that cost more than 15 points of end already.. Not counting telekinesis..


 

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Yeah i noticed the lvl 38 power was pretty poor, problem i have is the main (ice) is for holds/slows etc and energy, total focus aside, doesnt have many high damage attacks, so I really gotta take it. total focus, bone smasher imo are must haves, and then you have the snipe, which Im in two minds whether to take, specially when the two mains are melee, so you have power bolt and power burst being the only other two that seem to do any kind of damage. Im only lvl 27 at the min and with the i8 free respecs, can ty a few varied builds and see how it goes.

PVE this toon goes well on highest setting, pvp without any major damage is pretty sucky. Im hoping total focus will change that, but im kinda thinking it may be worth trying a different build.