Hamidon fireworks Sunday 5th november
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You need to be higher than 45 to be able to get into the Zone. Other than that there is no limit.
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lvl 45 is enough to get to enter the Hive.
I should be there, barring me getting invited to dinner by some super model...............
So yeah, I'll be there
@Byrne
Debtmeister General of The Plastic Army & Empire
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Sounds good to me
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I'm in too.... better had be, Cyn will be at mine leeching my connection
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Oh yeah, Bob can I use your net on sunday for a hami raid?
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I'll think about it...
*thinks*
*considers*
ummmmm.... yeah ok!
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Steampunkette will be there.
I might be caught up in NWN2 by sunday too deep to break out. I may not attend
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
I'll be there, with the GM team . For anyone that reads this please do not help the GM team unless asked to, chances are you can't hear our TS or team chat and won't know when we love you for dead, which means unkempt aggro from GMs on you and potentially the hami tank empaths
If we need help we will holla, although selection will be on the basis of whether people are known to be reliable to the leaders or the actual GM team. too many cooks and all that.
w00t more HOs, (I owe 1 to dead calm, but tainted greek owes me one )
Plight
Well I'm all set for this raid. See ya in the Hive people!
*bump*
Looking forward to tonight...time for some more jelly
Please respect Plight's wishes...if he needs help it will be called for by Plight, White Magus or Xanthus.
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"You know me.Ever the realist"
Can I just ask, why do we have a GM team now, when the initial idea was rejected?
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Can I just ask, why do we have a GM team now, when the initial idea was rejected?
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The idea of a public one was rejected for various reasons.
I'll try to be there.... With a blast.
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Can I just ask, why do we have a GM team now, when the initial idea was rejected?
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The idea of a public one was rejected for various reasons.
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Which was?
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Can I just ask, why do we have a GM team now, when the initial idea was rejected?
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The idea of a public one was rejected for various reasons.
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Which was?
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Mob mentality. Plight Trawler is a close friend of the Inner Monkey and The Paragon Defenders. What's more, he's on Teamspeak, assembles the team only from those that we trust and is pretty much private about what he's doing where.
It is highly risky to have a forum organised team that may or may not broadcast about attacking GM's and then have some of the Hold group peeling off to deal with them or have mass attackers in the jelly. What's more, we can't be having with needing to send /tell's with lag flying around.
It's just too risky.
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Can I just ask, why do we have a GM team now, when the initial idea was rejected?
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The idea of a public one was rejected for various reasons.
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Which was?
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Mob mentality. Plight Trawler is a close friend of the Inner Monkey and The Paragon Defenders. What's more, he's on Teamspeak, assembles the team only from those that we trust and is pretty much private about what he's doing where.
It is highly risky to have a forum organised team that may or may not broadcast about attacking GM's and then have some of the Hold group peeling off to deal with them or have mass attackers in the jelly. What's more, we can't be having with needing to send /tell's with lag flying around.
It's just too risky.
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I can see where your coming from, but, with all them spare tanks, scrappers and blaster etc. Just standing around wouldint it be good to give us something to do?
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Can I just ask, why do we have a GM team now, when the initial idea was rejected?
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The idea of a public one was rejected for various reasons.
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Which was?
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As to why it's not public, well i cant say a lot, it's the same reason i dont run raids, cos i dont want to right now, if you are 'in charge' you appoint who u like. sorry
Plight
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Can I just ask, why do we have a GM team now, when the initial idea was rejected?
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The idea of a public one was rejected for various reasons.
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Which was?
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Mob mentality. Plight Trawler is a close friend of the Inner Monkey and The Paragon Defenders. What's more, he's on Teamspeak, assembles the team only from those that we trust and is pretty much private about what he's doing where.
It is highly risky to have a forum organised team that may or may not broadcast about attacking GM's and then have some of the Hold group peeling off to deal with them or have mass attackers in the jelly. What's more, we can't be having with needing to send /tell's with lag flying around.
It's just too risky.
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I can see where your coming from, but, with all them spare tanks, scrappers and blaster etc. Just standing around wouldint it be good to give us something to do?
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Having experienced a fair few Hami raids with an attack phase, that many power going off even near the bubble is very bad.
Another thing I forgot to mention. On the main concern of actually stopping GM griefing, assuming we have several random or public GM teams then it is hard for the eyes in the sky and for the people on the floor on TS coordinating the raid to tell which GMs are unaggroed and just walking - risky but not aggroed - and which are being faught efficiently, if the GM wins it will rampage in some cases, also and most importantly, true griefers could easily use the activity to mask their attempts to ruin the raid for everyone and easily put a stop to the raid. I haven't seen one raid wipe where people have started again, personally I would, but most people don't have the time or inclination.
Plight
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Another thing I forgot to mention. On the main concern of actually stopping GM griefing, assuming we have several random or public GM teams then it is hard for the eyes in the sky and for the people on the floor on TS coordinating the raid to tell which GMs are unaggroed and just walking - risky but not aggroed - and which are being faught efficiently, if the GM wins it will rampage in some cases, also and most importantly, true griefers could easily use the activity to mask their attempts to ruin the raid for everyone and easily put a stop to the raid. I haven't seen one raid wipe where people have started again, personally I would, but most people don't have the time or inclination.
Plight
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Also, it's hard to differentiate between a small GM team trying to tackle a problem and a small group of people trying to lure a GM to the bubble.
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Can I just ask, why do we have a GM team now, when the initial idea was rejected?
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The idea of a public one was rejected for various reasons.
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Which was?
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Mob mentality. Plight Trawler is a close friend of the Inner Monkey and The Paragon Defenders. What's more, he's on Teamspeak, assembles the team only from those that we trust and is pretty much private about what he's doing where.
It is highly risky to have a forum organised team that may or may not broadcast about attacking GM's and then have some of the Hold group peeling off to deal with them or have mass attackers in the jelly. What's more, we can't be having with needing to send /tell's with lag flying around.
It's just too risky.
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I can see where your coming from, but, with all them spare tanks, scrappers and blaster etc. Just standing around wouldint it be good to give us something to do?
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This isn't just during the holdphase....it's during the whole raid.
And I have to admit I'm a bit tired of people saying they haven't got anything to do...the holdphase lasts 10-15 mins!!
SingStar:
"Extremists LOVE to fish to get us annoyed so we break the forum rules."
CRACK68:
"The origin of life wasn't planned either, should all life be declared a bug and wiped out?"
Lionsbane:
"You know me.Ever the realist"
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Can I just ask, why do we have a GM team now, when the initial idea was rejected?
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The idea of a public one was rejected for various reasons.
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Which was?
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Mob mentality. Plight Trawler is a close friend of the Inner Monkey and The Paragon Defenders. What's more, he's on Teamspeak, assembles the team only from those that we trust and is pretty much private about what he's doing where.
It is highly risky to have a forum organised team that may or may not broadcast about attacking GM's and then have some of the Hold group peeling off to deal with them or have mass attackers in the jelly. What's more, we can't be having with needing to send /tell's with lag flying around.
It's just too risky.
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I can see where your coming from, but, with all them spare tanks, scrappers and blaster etc. Just standing around wouldint it be good to give us something to do?
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This isn't just during the holdphase....it's during the whole raid.
And I have to admit I'm a bit tired of people saying they haven't got anything to do...the holdphase lasts 10-15 mins!!
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10-15 Mins of people doing nothing.
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Can I just ask, why do we have a GM team now, when the initial idea was rejected?
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The idea of a public one was rejected for various reasons.
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Which was?
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Mob mentality. Plight Trawler is a close friend of the Inner Monkey and The Paragon Defenders. What's more, he's on Teamspeak, assembles the team only from those that we trust and is pretty much private about what he's doing where.
It is highly risky to have a forum organised team that may or may not broadcast about attacking GM's and then have some of the Hold group peeling off to deal with them or have mass attackers in the jelly. What's more, we can't be having with needing to send /tell's with lag flying around.
It's just too risky.
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I can see where your coming from, but, with all them spare tanks, scrappers and blaster etc. Just standing around wouldint it be good to give us something to do?
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This isn't just during the holdphase....it's during the whole raid.
And I have to admit I'm a bit tired of people saying they haven't got anything to do...the holdphase lasts 10-15 mins!!
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10-15 Mins of people doing nothing.
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Compared to the hour or so the Tank Team have or doing near to nothing, I say you get a good deal.
Woah quote Pyramid made me dizzy there.
And no i'm not trying to say that whay I mean is, i'd rather not just sit there, i'd prefer to help rather than just stand around.
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Woah quote Pyramid made me dizzy there.
And no i'm not trying to say that whay I mean is, i'd rather not just sit there, i'd prefer to help rather than just stand around.
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We know. But, unfortunately, the current state of the netcode and servers means that bashing GM's en masse is a hindrance.
Yahoo.
Well Done All!
It's lvl 45+ to get in the Hive unfortunately. If you don't get to 45 for this raid there's sure to be another raid soon enough
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