Help with brute build


Animal_Mutha_EU

 

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Hey I really need help with this .

I just wanted to start a brute and I have no idea which powersets I should choose. I have no idea which build I should follow. so let me start off with what I want with the brute. I am looking for a PVE build that most experienced players use. And please post the build with slottings and all that kind of stuff. I now that there is no perfect build but please post a GOOD build so I atleast have something to follow. Thank you very much.


 

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I seem to pick unusual brutes so I'm probably not going to be the best of help here. But there are several different brute types and play styles. The Fire/Fires are played very differently to SS/Stone for example. So you need to say what you want from your brute (not powersets but what you want to be able to do) and then people can look at it, go "hey my brute can do that" and help you out.


"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"

 

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Flavour of the month seems to be what I have: Energy Melee/Electric Armour.

I wanted good damage output with decent survivability, and that's what I was advised to go for. Can't say I've been disappointed so far

Also have a look on the US Brutes forums for good guides on the way to slot powersets well, and have a look at their Brute guides as well as my comic in my sig (shameless plug) for a guide on Brutes & fury usage.


 

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You know...Brute thing. Deal good damage and aid fast, but like I said I dont know a thing about brutes only that they deal great damage and have some nice powers to survive.

You out there that knows a great build please post here for me.


 

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Well if you want AoE damage you want the fire primary, with the fire secondry it becomes amazing AoE damage but you'd be fairly squishy.

Elec has good resistance all round, but no self heal and no def..... which brings me to EN, which has an alright level of Def, no self heal but with the Def Aid Self is an option. Both of those secondries have end recovery powers in them that are worth having.

Stone secondry is a bit too slow for my liking, but post 38 the highest level of def and resistance you can have. Inv is a fairly good standard set.

DA is a bit of a head mess of a set, but can be a lot of fun. Its not high res, but somehow you survive.

If you want an ST damage primay then its EN or SS really. SS has the nicer AoE of the two en has the higher damage ST attacks. Rage gives SS another equaliser I wouldn't like to pick between them. Stone comes close but has some nice soft control, costs more end, and looks awesome

So single target, AoE, Res, Def.......... what you loooking for?


"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"

 

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Then I would say AoE.


 

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Fire melee is must if going AoE, for secondary I'd take anything but stone or NRG (NRG has no aura for herding and stone is just gimped).

Personally I have fire/invul who's doing pretty nicely IMO.


 

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You are free to post your build for your fire/invul


 

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My current plan is something like this:

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name: Deadly Flamer
Level: 50
Archetype: Brute
Primary: Fiery Melee
Secondary: Invulnerability
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01) --> Scorch==> Acc(1)EndRdx(15)
01) --> Resist Physical Damage==> DmgRes(1)
02) --> Cremate==> Acc(2)Rechg(3)EndRdx(3)Dmg(43)Dmg(50)
04) --> Dull Pain==> Rechg(4)Rechg(5)Rechg(5)Heal(11)Heal(13)Heal(15)
06) --> Temp Invulnerability==> EndRdx(6)DmgRes(7)DmgRes(7)DmgRes(9)
08) --> Incinerate==> Acc(8)Rechg(9)EndRdx(11)Dmg(46)Dmg(48)Dmg(50)
10) --> Air Superiority==> Acc(10)EndRdx(13)
12) --> Swift==> Empty(12)
14) --> Fly==> Fly(14)Fly(19)
16) --> Unyielding==> EndRdx(16)DmgRes(17)DmgRes(17)DmgRes(19)
18) --> Health==> Heal(18)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Breath of Fire==> Acc(22)Rechg(23)EndRdx(23)Dmg(31)Dmg(31)Dmg(34)
24) --> Hasten==> Rechg(24)Rechg(25)Rechg(25)
26) --> Fire Sword Circle==> Acc(26)Rechg(27)EndRdx(27)Rechg(31)Dmg(33)Dmg(34)
28) --> Invincibility==> DefBuf(28)DefBuf(29)DefBuf(29)
30) --> Aid Other==> Heal(30)
32) --> Greater Fire Sword==> Acc(32)Rechg(33)EndRdx(33)Dmg(34)Dmg(37)Dmg(40)
35) --> Aid Self==> Heal(35)Heal(36)Heal(36)Rechg(36)IntRdx(37)IntRdx(37)
38) --> Unstoppable==> Rechg(38)Rechg(39)Rechg(39)DmgRes(39)DmgRes(40)DmgRes(40)
41) --> Electrifying Fences==> Acc(41)Rechg(42)EndRdx(42)Dmg(42)Dmg(43)Dmg(43)
44) --> Ball Lightning==> Acc(44)Rechg(45)EndRdx(45)Dmg(45)Dmg(46)Dmg(46)
47) --> Build Up==> Rechg(47)Rechg(48)Rechg(48)
49) --> Taunt==> Rechg(49)Taunt(50)
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01) --> Power Slide==> Empty(1)
01) --> Power Quick==> Empty(1)
01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Fury==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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What lvl are you Max? And is this your finish build or is this your plan to lvl 50?


 

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L29 atm, and it's the build I'm planning to use L1-50, and at L50. I rarely do different "levelling builds" and "End builds", since I don't like wasting respecs.


 

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Max's build looks nice but you should be aware if you follow is you're not getting an AoE until lvl 22 (Firebreath) which is a bit late.

Also Cremate and Incinerate are both DoT's. I would also get Fire Sword rather than Scorch. just personal preference but I find getting hit builds your Fury at a more than adequate pace. With all the DoT attacks Fire Sword would be a nice chunk of immediate damage.


 

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Animal please post the build with your changes


 

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Awwwwwww! I've done about three builds ever *fidgets and looks at feet*. All I would suggest is having a look at when you could pick up either Fire Breath or FSC and deciding if you want to stick rigidly to Max's build or deviate from it a bit.

I for example normally get the Fitness pool early on but often leave my travel until the mid 20's and prefer to concentrate on building an attack chain and getting my key defences earlier on.


 

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Yes I will deviate a bit fro Max's build. I am not good at taking my own decissions about when I should take a power and so. So please post the build like max did and I will be very grateful.


 

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Am about to swap Scorch back into my fire brutes build cause I have found myself disliking fire sword. I know its a perception thing as the animation times are almost the same, but Fire Sword feels longer and it annoys me.

I'd go with something very simular to MaX's build as his fire side is close to mine, and I am thus bias. I have leaping though, not flight so things are a bit different level wise

Edit: At high levels a range in Breath Of Fire is better than the recharge though, but until you get the Mu attacks you probably want the recharge there. One enhancement swap isn't a big change over 50 levels though


"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"

 

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Try em/fire and dont forget to take boxing and tough at least, /fire's kinda squishy, and why em/fire? BU&FE+ET or TF=OUHIE


 

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Hey,

I've got a couple brutes of which a SS/INV and a FM/EA.
The invulnarable one feels pretty good, certainly when combined with tough, ur S/L res will go above 60% :-)
Of all brutes I must say the SS/INV is the easiest to play, rage turns this brute into a smashing machine
The only downside on the /INV is the usage of endurance, it's kinde heave 'till U get stamina.

The EA set is nice 2 (U get mezz protection pretty early, which is very nice), but needs aid self to up ur survival (certainly in bigger teams). when ur luck runs out they just go thru U like a hot knife thru butter

Both have an über lvl38 power!!!

The Fire Melee is very nice, but fire breath needs some practice, it's a very narrow cone

No ctiric, just my idea on the Max' build :
* I see U use 1 ACC on all attack powers, U think this is enough at the higher levels where the baddies have debuff/buff/...
* On an invul. set (which is all about resistance), I personally chose Tough to add to my res instead of aid self (which is imho more for the EA set)
* invincibility needs 1 of mebbe 2 end reductions, cert. 1
* on my lvl49 FM/EA I dropped all rech. enh on attacks, fire is pretty quick on it's own

Enjoy the bruting !

Mad Fire Green - lvl49 FM/EA
Mad Dave - lvl50 SS/INV
www.thesocpages.net


 

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Once invinc is running Aid Self applies fast enough with the defence it gives.

And yeah I run with 1 acc in everything at 50 with my brute (except my damage aura). If something's going to debuff my acc I use BU and then kill it before it can (or while it is)


"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"

 

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[ QUOTE ]

* I see U use 1 ACC on all attack powers, U think this is enough at the higher levels where the baddies have debuff/buff/...

[/ QUOTE ]As long as you're sensible and don't fight anything higher than +2's, yes.


 

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ok here is a dark melee / fire brute build, it will be great at pve :-)

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Name: Dark Ooi
Level: 50
Archetype: Brute
Primary: Dark Melee
Secondary: Fiery Aura
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01) --> Smite==> Acc(1) Acc(37) Dmg(39) Dmg(39) Dmg(39)
01) --> Fire Shield==> DmgRes(1) DmgRes(3) DmgRes(3)
02) --> Shadow Maul==> Acc(2) Acc(40) Dmg(40) Dmg(40) Dmg(42)
04) --> Healing Flames==> Heal(4) Heal(5) Heal(5) Rechg(7) Rechg(7) Rechg(9)
06) --> Boxing==> Acc(6) Acc(13) Dmg(34) Dmg(34)
08) --> Siphon Life==> Acc(8) Acc(9) Rechg(11) Heal(11) Heal(13)
10) --> Combat Jumping==> DefBuf(10) DefBuf(36) DefBuf(37)
12) --> Swift==> Run(12) Run(37)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14) Jump(15) Jump(15)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16) Heal(17) Heal(17)
18) --> Dark Consumption==> Acc(18) Acc(19) EndMod(19) EndMod(21) EndMod(21) Rechg(23)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(23) EndMod(25)
22) --> Consume==> Acc(22) Acc(25) EndMod(27) EndMod(27) EndMod(29) Rechg(29)
24) --> Plasma Shield==> DmgRes(24) DmgRes(45) DmgRes(45)
26) --> Temperature Protection==> DmgRes(26) DmgRes(45) DmgRes(46)
28) --> Soul Drain==> Acc(28) Acc(31) TH_Buf(31) TH_Buf(31) Rechg(33)
30) --> Blazing Aura==> EndRdx(30) EndRdx(33) Acc(33) Acc(34)
32) --> Midnight Grasp==> Acc(32) Acc(46) Dmg(46) Dmg(48)
35) --> Fiery Embrace==> Rechg(35) Rechg(36) Rechg(36)
38) --> Rise of the Phoenix==> Rechg(38) Rechg(42) EndMod(42) EndMod(43) Heal(43) Heal(43)
41) --> Mace Blast==> Acc(41)
44) --> Disruptor Blast==> Acc(44)
47) --> Summon Blaster==> Acc(47) Acc(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(50)
49) --> Tough==> DmgRes(49) DmgRes(50) DmgRes(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
01) --> Fury==> Empty(1)
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the enhancments are off btw, play with it and see what need's doing as you level up, i hant played this yet, im just going from the powers for you.


 

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erm not taking tough till 49??? WHY?? lol
this is kinda my build atm, also plasma shield is hold protect etc so switch that around.
Archetype: Brute
Primary: Dark Melee
Secondary: Fiery Aura
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01) --> Smite==> Empty(1) Empty(5) Empty(13) Empty(13) Empty(19) Empty(25)
01) --> Fire Shield==> Empty(1) Empty(3) Empty(11) Empty(19) Empty(27)
02) --> Blazing Aura==> Empty(2) Empty(3) Empty(5) Empty(45) Empty(45) Empty(45)
04) --> Shadow Maul==> Empty(4) Empty(31) Empty(31) Empty(34) Empty(34) Empty(36)
06) --> Healing Flames==> Empty(6) Empty(7) Empty(7) Empty(9) Empty(9) Empty(11)
08) --> Siphon Life==> Empty(8) Empty(40) Empty(40) Empty(42) Empty(43) Empty(43)
10) --> Swift==> Empty(10) Empty(33) Empty(33)
12) --> Combat Jumping==> Empty(12)
14) --> Health==> Empty(14) Empty(15) Empty(15)
16) --> Plasma Shield==> Empty(16) Empty(17) Empty(17) Empty(27) Empty(31)
18) --> Super Jump==> Empty(18)
20) --> Stamina==> Empty(20) Empty(21) Empty(21)
22) --> Consume==> Empty(22) Empty(23) Empty(23) Empty(25) Empty(39) Empty(40)
24) --> Acrobatics==> Empty(24) Empty(33)
26) --> Boxing==> Empty(26)
28) --> Tough==> Empty(28) Empty(29) Empty(29) Empty(48)
30) --> Soul Drain==> Empty(30) Empty(34) Empty(37) Empty(37) Empty(37) Empty(39)
32) --> Dark Consumption==> Empty(32) Empty(39) Empty(43) Empty(46) Empty(46) Empty(46)
35) --> Fiery Embrace==> Empty(35) Empty(36) Empty(36)
38) --> Weave==> Empty(38) Empty(50)
41) --> Hasten==> Empty(41) Empty(42) Empty(42)
44) --> Touch of Fear==> Empty (44) Empty(50)
47) --> Midnight Grasp==> Empty(47) Empty(50)
49) --> Burn==> Empty(49)