My current build has fly, medicine and ice epic. The problem at the moment is that every blaster and his dog is picking up the ice epic, which totally eliminates, fly, ss and aid self.
Against any other blaster (and we all know blaster vs. blaster is where it's at 
) with ice epic and sj you are a sitting duck. It has left me wanting to respec invis back in instead of medicine to be able to drop snowstorm in battle. SJ also has the obvious advantage of unlocking acro too which most people would also consider essential. (Tbh I'm pretty [censored] off with it atm because the current snowstorm mania makes the leaping pool even more advantageous, and damnit I like flying!)
Looks pretty good all-in-all but you probably want to lose a recharge from boost range and stick an extra slow in snowstorm.
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Haha, shows how out of touch I am with PvP: I thought Ice Epic would be something new and original!
ice epic is a lot better now with toggledrop nerf before it wasn't as good because you could just toggle drop the snowstorm on you now you can't. I would slot hibernate with more heals and boostrange is quite an end drain so consider slotting it with 1 end reduce. if you want to drop acrobatics with just freezeray you're going to have to power boost it or use hasten. i used to play with elec epic and have both holds that allowed me to drop acroabtics from range which is usefull. i could even hold scrappers with ice hold and elec hold. which was a very pleasent surprise seeing as most of the scrappers dont bring as many breakfrees to the arena vs blasters any more.
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ice epic is a lot better now with toggledrop nerf before it wasn't as good because you could just toggle drop the snowstorm on you now you can't. I would slot hibernate with more heals and boostrange is quite an end drain so consider slotting it with 1 end reduce. if you want to drop acrobatics with just freezeray you're going to have to power boost it or use hasten. i used to play with elec epic and have both holds that allowed me to drop acroabtics from range which is usefull. i could even hold scrappers with ice hold and elec hold. which was a very pleasent surprise seeing as most of the scrappers dont bring as many breakfrees to the arena vs blasters any more.
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I have no problem with power boosting or using Hasten. I guess the question is, will I have more chance against non-squishies with snowstorm or two holds? I'm guessing it's with snowstorm if they bring BFs. Hmmmm...
I see a lot of you get ice for pvp... isnt FF better?
PFF is a must, you just push it and noones can hit you, wonderful panic button for its quicly recharge.
Does Snow storm works well against brutes/scrappers/tankers?
maybe question is: Force of nature or Hibernate?
not an easy question..what do you say?
Any blaster can hit through PFF with very little difficulty, especially a /energy one. It can be very good against other ATs though, especially non-rad controllers.
-fly, -spd and -recharge works very well against anyone 
Hibernate for duels, FoN for team matches, imo.
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Ok first to admit i'm not the most experianced PVP'er who's posted :/ But my Bow/eng blaster has PFF and what Valens has said is right Aim + BU will hit straight through 
so against another blaster not the best panic button in the world. In team PVP though works very well from my limited experiance so i guess it all depends on what you want to do win in 1v1's in which case ice is best (or re-roll as a Fire/Rad troller
omg.... really?
even with 3 deff buff? omg...mm i didnt know AIM was able to pass PFF...
uhm.... well.... my blaster is still 39, i was sure about get FF, but now i have doubts between ice and ff ><
so, i suppose corruptors can do that too since they have aim... and defenders.... ><
uhm... mmmmmmm.... uhmmmmmmmmmmmm....
i dont know -.-
i like 1vs1 pvp and team pvp too.... of course i like pve too... soo uhm......
i dont know.
uhm.. i suppose hibernate works at the same way of phase shift? except for + reg you get from hibernate..
Hibernate basically rootens you and leaves you invulnerable to any attack. Just like phase shift, as you said, except for the +reg and +recovery. Main con is that if you are fighting a debuffer, like /rad, for instance, you can bet your money you will have the whole set of debuffs on you as you break free from it, which would mean an almost sure doom
Lol, I used to have ice epic(cold mastery) and went to change it into force and medicine pool. I always knew that snow storm was the best power in ice epic, hibernate is ok and frozen armor.. well imo sucked.
Key point is indeed that snow storm is an autohit power (targeted toggle) that nullifies aid self (and has decent -recharge). It wasnt all THAT great against other opponents that I plyed, though. Useful, but nothing earth-shattering. Blaster vs blaster though, its propably best epic that you can have.
My force mastery however has totally changed the tables I had with melee characters, making me pretty unkillable. Mainly due to PFF which I can always activate and PB+aid self me back to shape. FON the enemy can nullify with their own 9th tier power usually(or more precisely, DP+instant healing). With ice epic and no aid self I used to lose 0-10 or so, with force mastery and aid self I have beaten last regens I fought 1-0 or 2-0. PFF is very dirty trick imo, but undeniably useful. Takes little endurance, is up practically when I need it and makes me pretty untouchable except for blasters and certain targeted toggles .
I would never say that blaster has no difficulties hitting thru PFF (try it without buffs 
), but I know I can hit thru it with PB+BU+aim applied (I have 6-slotted BU and Aim thou). Same applies to MoG and elude. Those buffs however arent up all the time.
PS. And boost range was indeed perma with less than 3 recharges, iirc 2 is enough like Valens said.
PPS. two accuracy in power thrust.
PPPS. The build doesnt look that unorthodox to me
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uhm.. i suppose hibernate works at the same way of phase shift? except for + reg you get from hibernate..
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When hibernate activates, you can't move, but can't be affected by anything either (same as phased). You can't activate or disactivate powers apart from hibernate, but toggles will stay on. Its like an invulnerable rest, really.
It switches itself off after 30 seconds iirc, but you can disactivate it at any time.
Note: if you are under -regen from some power, hibernate will not gain hp but will not be interrupted either. Hib lasts 30 seconds though so it is possible for -regen to wear off in that time.
i never lost to anyone during the time i had force mastery force mastery is better then ice vs any thing other then blasters. to be able to have force of nature on for 4 mins in a fight its just too good. you can stand toe to toe with a scrapper for 4 mins and that rocks. even though you can hit through pff it's very hard to kill someone who uses it. you have to wait for aim and build up to be on. and when you hit them the person could just run and and hide allowing you to only use ranged attacks. People might consider that as a cheap tactic though, which people did when i used force mastery. anyways you can't go wrong with either force or ice epic. just keep in mind that ice armor is [censored] vs scrappers tankers and most trollers.
I get hit through pff all the time by tanks and scrappers using FA, with build up they hit a lot more than they miss.
Apparently though, Power Boost affects defense buffs of toggles you're running, which I always assumed it wouldn't, but this makes both Ice armor and PFF much more attractive to a /energy blaster. Power Boost is only down for 7 seconds at a time whilst running hasten.
You can only have FoN for a maximum of 3 minutes in a duel, not 4, unless you use geas accolade too, but that doesnt bring it down much. And this is ofcourse assuming that you're not going to die and ruin your buff cycle, which you probably will.
Overall, I think the ice epic has more to offer generally in duels. If you have a decent kin or empath backing you up though, FoN all the way.
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Well, with Rogue Hitting 50 tonight I've decided to completely streamline his build towards PvP.
The thing is though, things have changed a fair bit since I was last big on PvP - with all this + perception, invis doesn't seem so much a legitimate option, so I'm thinking about loosing that for the medicine pool. Since this is mainly for the arena, breakfrees are rife, so I'm thinking about dropping the electric epic and taking Ice. I've seen how slows can cripple and would be intrigued to see what they can do. To that end, I've got fly and boost range in there so that these three powers should mean I can control the fight from range if need be.
Is this viable? Freeze Ray cycles so fast that I can break through acro with it, but Ibe better of just trying to make them bunch BFs?
My problem with Ice/energy is how close range it has to be, which is why I'm quite partial to the snowstorm idea. But I could do with the opinions of those in the know! Any other comments would be greatly appreciated to!
Check it out:
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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://sherksilver.coldfront.net/index.php)
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Name: Frozen Rogue
Level: 50
Archetype: Blaster
Primary: Ice Blast
Secondary: Energy Manipulation
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01) --> Ice Blast==> Acc(1) Acc(3) Dmg(3) Dmg(5) Dmg(5) EndRdx(7)
01) --> Power Thrust==> Acc(1) Rechg(7)
02) --> Energy Punch==> Acc(2) Acc(9) Dmg(9) Dmg(11) Dmg(11) Rechg(13)
04) --> Build Up==> Rechg(4) Rechg(13) Rechg(15) TH_Buf(48)
06) --> Aim==> Rechg(6) Rechg(15) Rechg(17) TH_Buf(46)
08) --> Freeze Ray==> Acc(8) Acc(17) Hold(19) Hold(19) Rechg(21) Rechg(21)
10) --> Bone Smasher==> Acc(10) Acc(23) Dmg(23) Dmg(25) Dmg(25) Rechg(27)
12) --> Hasten==> Rechg(12) Rechg(27) Rechg(29)
14) --> Super Speed==> EndRdx(14)
16) --> Conserve Power==> Rechg(16) Rechg(29) Rechg(31)
18) --> Bitter Ice Blast==> Acc(18) Acc(31) Dmg(31) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) EndRdx(33)
20) --> Swift==> Run(20)
22) --> Hurdle==> Jump(22)
24) --> Stamina==> EndMod(24) EndMod(34) EndMod(34)
26) --> Hover==> Fly(26) Fly(34) Fly(36)
28) --> Power Boost==> Rechg(28) Rechg(36) Rechg(36)
30) --> Fly==> Fly(30) Fly(37) EndRdx(37) EndRdx(37)
32) --> Stimulant==> Rechg(32)
35) --> Aid Self==> Heal(35) Heal(39) Heal(39) IntRdx(42) IntRdx(42) Rechg(43)
38) --> Total Focus==> Acc(38) Acc(39) Dmg(40) Dmg(40) Dmg(40) EndRdx(42)
41) --> Snow Storm==> Slow(41) Slow(43) EndRdx(43) EndRdx(46) Rechg(50)
44) --> Frozen Armor==> DefBuf(44) DefBuf(45) DefBuf(45) EndRdx(45) EndRdx(46)
47) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(47) Rechg(48) Rechg(48)
49) --> Boost Range==> Rechg(49) Rechg(50) Rechg(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Run(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
01) --> Defiance==> Empty(1)
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Thanks in advance guys!