Thugs/Dark re-build - any good? (build inside)


Carnifax

 

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After a horrific respec last time, I've come up with the following... Is this a good build for PvE with some PvP thrown in?

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name: Lord Void
Level: 50
Archetype: Mastermind
Primary: Thugs
Secondary: Dark Miasma
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01) --> Call Thugs==> Acc(1)Acc(3)Acc(3)Dmg(5)Dmg(5)Dmg(7)
01) --> Twilight Grasp==> Acc(1)Acc(7)Acc(9)Heal(9)Heal(11)Heal(11)
02) --> Tar Patch==> Rechg(2)Slow(40)Slow(42)
04) --> Darkest Night==> TH_DeBuf(4)TH_DeBuf(17)TH_DeBuf(19)EndRdx(19)
06) --> Equip Thugs==> EndRdx(6)EndRdx(46)
08) --> Recall Friend==> IntRdx(8)IntRdx(46)
10) --> Howling Twilight==> Rechg(10)Rechg(21)Rechg(21)DisDur(23)DisDur(23)DisDur(25)
12) --> Call Enforcer==> Acc(12)Acc(13)DefBuf(13)Dmg(15)Dmg(15)Dmg(17)
14) --> Teleport==> Range(14)Range(37)
16) --> Shadow Fall==> EndRdx(16)DefBuf(25)DefBuf(31)DefBuf(31)
18) --> Maneuvers==> DefBuf(18)DefBuf(46)
20) --> Fearsome Stare==> Acc(20)Acc(33)Fear(34)Fear(34)
22) --> Team Teleport==> Range(22)Range(34)EndRdx(36)EndRdx(37)EndRdx(43)
24) --> Hover==> DefBuf(24)
26) --> Call Bruiser==> Acc(26)Acc(27)DisDur(27)Dmg(29)Dmg(29)Dmg(31)
28) --> Fly==> Fly(28)Fly(36)EndRdx(36)
30) --> Tactics==> TH_Buf(30)TH_Buf(33)TH_Buf(43)
32) --> Upgrade Equipment==> EndRdx(32)EndRdx(33)Rechg(37)
35) --> Gang War==> Rechg(35)Rechg(42)Rechg(43)
38) --> Dark Servant==> Acc(38)Rechg(39)Rechg(39)Immob(39)Heal(40)Hold(40)
41) --> Dark Embrace==> DmgRes(41)DmgRes(42)
44) --> Soul Tentacles==> Acc(44)EndRdx(45)Dmg(45)Dmg(45)
47) --> Soul Storm==> Acc(47)EndRdx(48)Hold(48)Dmg(48)
49) --> Vengeance==> DefBuf(49)DefBuf(50)DefBuf(50)Heal(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
01) --> Supremacy==> Empty(1)
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I've gone without fitness to fit in the extra powers I wanted, so ive put a few extra end reductions in places - mainly in the set up powers.

The Group teleport is to move me and my pets around PvP zones, and I put the Interrupt reduction in Recall friend so that i can set up a 'panic' macro if i get tp'ed away from the pets, and teleport for the usual emergencies... fly will be my main travel power.

Is this a viable build? Any advice?


 

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/dark with leadership, no stamina, and yet only one EndRdx in shadow fall and DN? Ouch.


 

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This is what I'm planning to respec Ziggy into as soon as I hit 32 (next lvl). Any comments also welcome.

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://sherksilver.coldfront.net/index.php)
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Name: Ziggy_respec
Level: 50
Archetype: Mastermind
Primary: Thugs
Secondary: Dark Miasma
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01) --> Call Thugs==> Acc(1) Dmg(3) Dmg(3) Dmg(5) Acc(37)
01) --> Twilight Grasp==> Acc(1) Heal(11) Heal(21) Heal(21) Acc(33) Rechg(40)
02) --> Tar Patch==> Rechg(2) Rechg(5) Rechg(7) Slow(43)
04) --> Darkest Night==> TH_DeBuf(4) TH_DeBuf(7) TH_DeBuf(11) EndRdx(15) EndRdx(43)
06) --> Equip Thugs==> EndRdx(6)
08) --> Hasten==> Rechg(8) Rechg(9) Rechg(9)
10) --> Swift==> Run(10)
12) --> Call Enforcer==> Acc(12) Dmg(13) Dmg(13) Dmg(15) DefDeBuf(17) DefDeBuf(17)
14) --> Super Speed==> Run(14)
16) --> Shadow Fall==> EndRdx(16) DmgRes(33) DmgRes(34) DmgRes(34) EndRdx(46)
18) --> Gang War==> Rechg(18) Rechg(19) Rechg(19)
20) --> Hurdle==> Jump(20)
22) --> Stamina==> EndMod(22) EndMod(23) EndMod(23)
24) --> Fearsome Stare==> Acc(24) Acc(25) Fear(25) Fear(29) Rechg(31) Rechg(31)
26) --> Call Bruiser==> Acc(26) Dmg(27) Dmg(27) Dmg(29) DisDur(34)
28) --> Howling Twilight==> Rechg(28) Rechg(31) Rechg(43)
30) --> Assault==> EndRdx(30) EndRdx(37)
32) --> Upgrade Equipment==> Rechg(32) EndRdx(33)
35) --> Tactics==> TH_Buf(35) TH_Buf(36) TH_Buf(36) EndRdx(36) EndRdx(37)
38) --> Dark Servant==> Rechg(38) Rechg(39) TH_DeBuf(39) TH_DeBuf(39) TH_DeBuf(40) Heal(40)
41) --> Dark Embrace==> DmgRes(41) DmgRes(42) DmgRes(42) EndRdx(42)
44) --> Soul Tentacles==> Acc(44) Acc(45) Rechg(45) Rechg(45) Immob(46) Range(46)
47) --> Soul Storm==> Acc(47) Acc(48) Hold(48) Hold(48) Rechg(50) Rechg(50)
49) --> Challenge==> Taunt(49) Taunt(50)

Still undecided about Leadership. Might skip it and take Petrifying Gaze and Hover instead.


CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>

 

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/dark with leadership, no stamina, and yet only one EndRdx in shadow fall and DN? Ouch.

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That bad, huh? I wasnt sure, so I thought id post here - ive never not had stamina on a toon before, but from your comment if guess it was as bad as i feared...

Looks like im stuck with teleport as a travel power (have to skip Howling Twighlight too...) which ironically takes me back to my original build back when I started him......


 

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I can't imagine any power being bad enough that two EndRdx's wouldn't see you clear to cover the End cost... maybe three (like I slot Force Bubble).

I really am going to have to bite the bullet and run a */Dark Mastermind to see if it is doable...


 

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Build looks cool Ziggy.


 

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You can do a Dark build without Stamina, but running Tactics too is asking a lot.

For Shadow Fall use Damage Resist, not Defense. The Defense bonus is pantaloons but the Dmg Resist (against NRG, Neg &amp; Psi I think) is pretty alright. 1 End Red would be handy there too.

Teleport with no End Reductions &amp; no stamina is painful. Hell even with End Red its painful, my level 28 Necro / Dark has to take breaks getting across Nerva. And then when he does get to the mish he has to wait for a bit to get enough juice to summon &amp; upgrade.

You don't need stamina but you will need to 2/3 slot TP with a few Ends to get about without it