Slotting Power Sink


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Hello again fellow players

I'm about to respec my SS/Elec Brute and I couldnt decide how I should slot Power Sink. When I got it at level 35, I put a Recharge Enhancement. Now that I'm 36, I put 3 more slots so I could play with it a little before I respec.

Most of the time I heard that I should put 3 Recherge and 3 Endurance. But with LR and one Recherge, I had the power recharged everytime I needed. I can understand why 3 Endurance, because vs Heroes and AVs you'll have only one target. But 3 recharge? And I plan to get Hasten as well so should I spent these 3 slots somewhere else?


 

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2 recharge is fine, the difference between 2 and 3 is 4 seconds. i also find 2 end is good enough even against one mob, unless your build is such that you lose end extremely fast.


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4 seconds is a long time with low/no endurance especially if you're planning on using your Brute for PVP Fu.
3x Recharge Reductions 3x Endurance Modifications is the way to go.

My Brute will have endurance problems in extended PVP battles especially when I am fighting 1 v 1. This is with LR, hasten and 3 x recharges in Power Sink.

You could slot your attacks with endurance reductions rather then relying solely on Power Sink, however, in my opinion if they replace +damage enhancements you’re reducing your burst damage which is key in PVP. I realise that with Brute’s low initial damage modifier (0.75 I think – less then a tank) the +%damage is not a huge amount but with Fury generation borked in PVP you’ll need all the help you can get.

Of course once you hit Power Surge all your endurance worries go away… for 3 minutes.

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4 seconds is a long time with low/no endurance especially if you're planning on using your Brute for PVP Fu.
3x Recharge Reductions 3x Endurance Modifications is the way to go.

My Brute will have endurance problems in extended PVP battles especially when I am fighting 1 v 1. This is with LR, hasten and 3 x recharges in Power Sink.

You could slot your attacks with endurance reductions rather then relying solely on Power Sink, however, in my opinion if they replace +damage enhancements you’re reducing your burst damage which is key in PVP. I realise that with Brute’s low initial damage modifier (0.75 I think – less then a tank) the +%damage is not a huge amount but with Fury generation borked in PVP you’ll need all the help you can get.

Of course once you hit Power Surge all your endurance worries go away… for 3 minutes.

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Can't agree more with clint .. i watched him fight a fire tank lastnight and also fought the same tank and having end reduxs in attacks helps a great deal as it dosn't slow down your attack chain everytime you have to hit powersink.
Ppl will say 'why slot end reduxs when you have powersink' my answer would be i'd rather throw a punch than have to use powersink every 2 mins.
Even tho i do have powersink slotted 3 recharge 3 end mods i can fight for longer and it dosn't effect my DPS at all as i've slotted attacks with end reduxs.


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I think you're disagreeing with my post Chelsea?


 

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Thanks for the replies, they really helped me deciding what to do. Perhaps I don't have End problems yet because my current build don#t have Hasten and I still can't get in RV.

Besides, I just remembered one big detail: I'll have two endurance crashes, one from Hasten and one from Rage.

@Clint: Thanks for your tips mate. I remember talking with you while playing and you told me that you can use Power Sink to detoggle an opponent when he has low endurance. Does the fact of having 3 Recharges affect this "ability"? You seem to have a lot of experience in RV

@Chelsea: I would like to know why did you slot with 3 Recharges and 3 Endurance if you also wrote that you prefer to attack instead of using Power Sink.


 

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From what I saw last night Chelsea with his ss/ela was able to execute his attack chains without burning too much endurance. He fought the tank to a draw, neither was able to damage the other enough to win.

I on the other hand don’t slot for endurance reduction and sometimes had to wait around for Power Sink to recharge. This didn’t really have a negative affect because I was able to defeat the fire tank by doing enough damage to him before his heal recharged.

It is possible to detoggle someone with Power Sink however I wouldn't rely on it as it can be situational.

I find it works in 2 ways: -

1. In an extended battle using it as often as it comes up will take toll on your opponents’ endurance which means if they use their end hungry big attacks or heal = detoggle whack whack whack whack - dead

2. In a zone you see someone low in end - zipping in hitting Power Sink = detoggle whack whack whack whack - dead


 

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Got 3 recharge 3 endurance in mine. Never regretted it, being able to keep everything around you drained while your always topped up is a power that deserves it's max.


 

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RE: Fu
Well i have all my attacks slotted with end reduxs so i don't have to use powersink all the time thus keeping a good DPS but if i need to use it its there also as another weapon ie end drain.

RE clint
No no i'm agree with most of what you said


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Trying to kill a pesky controller before they fairy fly away depends on burst damage, KO blow is all burst. Most experienced players will try to get out of range and then turn the tables, draining ur fury (which is probably zero to start with). I find tp foe an invaluable tool. If ur super strength (or any melee with a build up type power fully ToHit slotted) and PvPing in siren's call, do urself a favor and buy an arachnos mace, its a 2nd KO blow, and key to killing controllers in 4or 5 hits before they can get away and turn the tables. It will help with AVs too, and it helps super strength out by granting access to toxic damage rather than highly resisted smashing damage.


 

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Why is half of Powersink so incredibly gimped in PvP...or do I have some freaky bug just on my Brute?

In PvE I can sap huge chunks of endurance of mobs and bosses, and it's a key part of soft control and operating my Brute.

In PvP I get the benefit of recharging my own endurance, but basically naff all else. I take a tiny blip off characters, which is recovered pretty immediately by anyone with Stamina.

Ok, I'm not expecting the impact it has in PvE to translate directly to PvP, that would be craaaaaaaazy unbalanced, but the disparity is so large it's just stupid and it's that inconsistency that really bugs the hell out of me. If a power needs to be adjusted so dramatically in the way it works from PvE to PvP it's a bit stupid having it included in the set at all? If powers were products I'd be hightailing that one to the trading standards officers . I would hazard to say that the one power is actually almost two different powers from one aspect of the game to another.

I have mine slotted 3 X End' Mod' & 3 X Recharge.


 

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Ive seen power sink zap away 1/3 of the endurance bar (dont expect the same if ur up against another /elec. U will need the slotting u have + hasten, and the ulitmate drainer would be elec/elec/mu. Wether /elec/mu will do, something Ill have to test for myself on the test server. I am totally undecided which patron to chose atm. With my DM/elec brute I chose black scorpion, and its an excellent choice, with alot of effects/powers combining, to produce a profound effect.

However no other brute primary has an immobilize to stack with the patron powers, so its either black scorpion again or if I find some other effect worthwhile. I may just try to go with the most damaging patron, based on damage type/magnitude/recharge.


 

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Ive seen power sink zap away 1/3 of the endurance bar (dont expect the same if ur up against another /elec. U will need the slotting u have + hasten, and the ulitmate drainer would be elec/elec/mu. Wether /elec/mu will do, something Ill have to test for myself on the test server. I am totally undecided which patron to chose atm. With my DM/elec brute I chose black scorpion, and its an excellent choice, with alot of effects/powers combining, to produce a profound effect.

However no other brute primary has an immobilize to stack with the patron powers, so its either black scorpion again or if I find some other effect worthwhile. I may just try to go with the most damaging patron, based on damage type/magnitude/recharge.

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I have Hasten and I have Mu Mastery as Patron Powers. Never tried sapping Endurance from another Elec' Brute, but have fought against many other ATs.


 

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Ive seen power sink zap away 1/3 of the endurance bar (dont expect the same if ur up against another /elec. U will need the slotting u have + hasten, and the ulitmate drainer would be elec/elec/mu. Wether /elec/mu will do, something Ill have to test for myself on the test server. I am totally undecided which patron to chose atm. With my DM/elec brute I chose black scorpion, and its an excellent choice, with alot of effects/powers combining, to produce a profound effect.

However no other brute primary has an immobilize to stack with the patron powers, so its either black scorpion again or if I find some other effect worthwhile. I may just try to go with the most damaging patron, based on damage type/magnitude/recharge.

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I have Hasten and I have Mu Mastery as Patron Powers. Never tried sapping Endurance from another Elec' Brute, but have fought against many other ATs.

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and .... what was your impression of the two together? With LR + hasten +3 rech +3 End on powers sink, takes 20sec between recharges. Is 20sec long enough to stack the effect? I know Mu mastery's single ranged attack has a 30% chance of a 300% end recovery debuff for 4 sec. Did any fight last long enough for this to because useful?