hide+invis is higher then FA only..
so is there anyway to see through hide+invis like FA and tatics/poping a few acc insp
Tactics + FA will let you see the stalker early enough to counter their Assassin Strike.
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Heading for a swim, so quickly summarizing the mechanics of Perception vs. Stealth (complete stuff from US forums, HERE):
Base Perception range 500 ft.
Stalker hide reduces perception range with 500 ft
You can't see the stalker if you have no +perception effects running.
You activate Focused Accuracy, that gives you 300 ft extra perception range.
You can now see a Stalker, running Hide, who is 300 ft from you.
Stalker activates Stealth (which stacks with his Hide), which gives him additional 390 ft of Stealth (ie. reduces your perception range, when it comes to perceiving him, by 390 feet) - you can no longer see him, as your relative perception range is -90 ft.
You get Tactics, which gives you some +250 ft of extra perception (not sure about the exact Scrapper number at effective lv 50), you can see him at about 160 feet.
He switches his Stealth to Invisibility (which stacks with Hide), moving his total Stealth effect to 500 (Hide) + 611 (Invisibility) = 1111 feet, leaving you again staring at empty air with your perception of 500 (base) + 300 (FA) + 250 (Tactics) = 1050 feet.
The steps in the arms race after this are to get people with Grant Invisibility and Clear mind to get you both to Stealth and Perception caps, where you can see him at 10 feet, where it requires good reflexes to get him before he AS:es you.
Hope this helps understanding it.
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I do find it rather unfair that every other invisibility/stealth type power is unstackable with any other, except a Stalkers, but I suppose it's their only real 'nuke' attack.
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If it wasn't stackable, Hide would just be an inferior version of Invis (in terms of -perception anyway).
Just a question if a stalkers stacks Invis with hide, he can still AS you? I thought Invis on its own doesnt permit u to use any offensive attacks? (only powers on urself) So how comes he can attack you in hide with invis on aswell?
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Just a question if a stalkers stacks Invis with hide, he can still AS you? I thought Invis on its own doesnt permit u to use any offensive attacks? (only powers on urself) So how comes he can attack you in hide with invis on aswell?
[/ QUOTE ]He can't. He can, however, use invis to get next to you, and then detoggle it.
My understanding was that, roughly, Alvans post is right. However, there are stealth and perception caps that come into play as well.
It's also my understanding that there is a 1 for 1 deal hardcoded in, in the sense that 2 stealth powers will beat 1 perception powers regardless of the stealth/perception numbers involved, but I may be wrong there.
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I have recently got Focused accruacy and while in RV i got AS'ed many time by the same stalker but i could not see him at all. is this normal or would the stalker have to to running invis to counter my FA can anyone clarify this for me please. and my FA is only one slotted with endred im only lvl 41 [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img].