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A kinetisist who didn't pick up Fulcrum shift should just get their coat and leave.


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For a pure PvP build, Fulcrum is certainly skippable.

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For 1v1 PvP I woould personally take fulcrum and siphon power every time as they stack and you can destroy your opponents damage with them completely.

I realise that it can be very difficult to fit them both in, though.


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28) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(28)
30) --> Super Jump==> Jump(30)
49) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(49) EndRdx(50)

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It's true you could go with IR instead but I really really hate being knocked back/down....especially as a /kin

If you believe that CJ and Acrobatics isn't useful powers...well..thats just another thing we don't agree on.

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I agree...since I respecced acrobatics in playing with my kin is lots easier then before..


 

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A kinetisist who didn't pick up Fulcrum shift should just get their coat and leave.


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For a pure PvP build, Fulcrum is certainly skippable.

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For 1v1 PvP I woould personally take fulcrum and siphon power every time as they stack and you can destroy your opponents damage with them completely.

I realise that it can be very difficult to fit them both in, though.

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Isphon power doesn't fit well into my attack chain.

However, trying to configure any character for 1v1 PvP is a bit of a waste, courtesy of the rock, paper, scissors, spock, lizard way PvP works in 1v1. in team PvP, it gives a great boost to everyone both melee and distant.

Wasn't the OP looking for advice on a PvE build? if so, then Fulcrum shift is a 100% Must have, and should be on auto fire. FS also uses the same amount of Enduurance as Siphon Power, if I'm correct.


 

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Wasn't the OP looking for advice on a PvE build? if so, then Fulcrum shift is a 100% Must have, and should be on auto fire.

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Indeed (about the OP), but your reply was to Jiaozy who was describing his (PvP) build. For a PvE build, it's definitely a must-must-have. And I agree it's better to have both but I maintain that if you really can't fit them, for 1-on-1 PvP, Fulcrum could be skipped (since with Hasten and SS, you will be stacking SP anyway).

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FS also uses the same amount of Enduurance as Siphon Power, if I'm correct.

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FS uses more, but since you have Transference by then, who cares?


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Indeed (about the OP), but your reply was to Jiaozy who was describing his (PvP) build. For a PvE build, it's definitely a must-must-have. And I agree it's better to have both but I maintain that if you really can't fit them, for 1-on-1 PvP, Fulcrum could be skipped (since with Hasten and SS, you will be stacking SP anyway).

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Anyone who rolls a character specifically just for 1v1 PvP should get their coat and leave.

nah, not really - even in a 1v1, FS is also a must have, it has a similar recharge to Siphon Power. (or is it faster/slower)?!?? Doesn't matter, even in a 1v1 you can get a potential double stack per FS throw than per siphon power throw, if you're close enough.

I'm still standing by my opinion that Fulcrum Shift is the crowning glory of every Kinetisist, and anyone who doesn't take it is an utter nutter.

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FS also uses the same amount of Enduurance as Siphon Power, if I'm correct.

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FS uses more, but since you have Transference by then, who cares?

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Transference FTW!


 

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Interesting. I notice no one goes for teleport friend. Any reason for this? Just seems like an oppertunity not used. I admittedly neve took it for my empath as I figure if Im tping dead around I either didnt do my job or the mission is too much for my team. But I am suprised at so many proposed builds here and on the ill/rad that leave tp friend out.


 

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Anyone who rolls a character specifically just for 1v1 PvP should get their coat and leave.

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You have heard of level 50 PvP respecs, right? And some people just prefer duels...

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nah, not really - even in a 1v1, FS is also a must have, it has a similar recharge to Siphon Power. (or is it faster/slower)?!??

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The recharge of Fulcrum is 3 times that of SP. But let's just agree to disagree on this .


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Interesting. I notice no one goes for teleport friend. Any reason for this? Just seems like an oppertunity not used. I admittedly neve took it for my empath as I figure if Im tping dead around I either didnt do my job or the mission is too much for my team. But I am suprised at so many proposed builds here and on the ill/rad that leave tp friend out.

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Recall Friend is a nice power....but many other, better and more interesting powers in the 2 sets to get....would personally leave out Mutation aswell.


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The recharge of Fulcrum is 3 times that of SP. But let's just agree to disagree on this .

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Really??!??? This leaves some interesting possibilities for me. Time to exercise my freespec!


 

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It offers +20% dmg to you and your team while weakening target's strenght. Pick it at low lvls. You probably will end up respecing it off after getting Fulcrum Shift.''

Erm....nah, use it AND Fulcrum shift! When there is just the AV left to 'arrest' then you can debuff him till the cows come home.


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Having made a few mistakes here or there with previous freespecs (like picking Assault with a view to picking Tactics, but not actually having a spare slot to pick it from 28 onwards, duh), I've now dropped both Deceive and Flash on the basis the former didn't suit my playstyle (so I never used it) and the latter is so slow to recharge and was fairly innacurate too (so I never used it).

So now have picked Tactics and Hasten in their place. With the tactics I'm now able to solo +5 Mins/Lts (with a bit of care), whereas without tactics I was struggling to do that with +3. Hasten is just a god-send. In the past 17 months I have read literally hundreds of posts where someone mentioned how great it was. Then it was 'Meh, it's not perma' after ED, so never gave it more thought.

But! In conjunction with the uber-goodness that is Siphon Speed, it is absolutely crazy... I just never appreciated the difference to be had in having a power that increases all recharge rates itself being recharge buffed by SS. Am loving it totally. And Transference too, it rocks.

To add some comments from others, have always had Group Invis, I love it, it's almost perma with 3 x Rchg SOs and it's a very 'heroey' power to use in a team situation (well, except for the moaney tank who can't herd because of it ).

The only powers in the /Kin set that I've skipped are Repel (does ANYONE pick this on a PvE build?), Increase Density and Inertial Redux. On my current build, I'm missing Deceive, Flash and Superior Invis from the Ill set.

Just thinking to myself if Flash would now be great with Hasten and Tactics, hmm.....


 

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Just thinking to myself if Flash would now be great with Hasten and Tactics, hmm.....

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Flash is skipped by many a ill troller but personally wouldn't do so since it's one of the few hard controls ill gets....for PvE anyways.


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