Ninja/Ninja: A build for all occasions!


Blaze_Johnson

 

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Having taken fellow GoEH member Chels advice, i have now a finished PvE/PvP build for my Stalker...

Currently lvl23 and enjoying it muchly

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name: Moonlight Sonata
Level: 50
Archetype: Stalker
Primary: Ninja Blade
Secondary: Ninjitsu
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01) --> Sting of the Wasp==> Acc(1)Acc(3)Dmg(3)Dmg(23)Dmg(37)Rechg(46)
01) --> Hide==> EndRdx(1)DefBuf(7)DefBuf(9)DefBuf(15)
02) --> Ninja Reflexes==> EndRdx(2)DefBuf(7)DefBuf(9)DefBuf(15)
04) --> Flashing Steel==> Acc(4)Acc(5)Dmg(5)Dmg(23)Dmg(37)Rechg(46)
06) --> Assassin's Blade==> Acc(6)Acc(11)Dmg(11)Dmg(25)Dmg(25)Rechg(43)
08) --> Swift==> Run(8)
10) --> Build Up==> Rechg(10)Rechg(17)Rechg(17)
12) --> Placate==> Rechg(12)Rechg(13)Rechg(13)
14) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(14)
16) --> Super Jump==> Jump(16)
18) --> Health==> Heal(18)Heal(19)Heal(19)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Danger Sense==> EndRdx(22)DefBuf(29)DefBuf(29)DefBuf(31)
24) --> Kuji-In Rin==> Rechg(24)Rechg(27)Rechg(27)
26) --> Soaring Dragon==> Acc(26)Acc(31)Dmg(31)Dmg(34)Dmg(36)Rechg(43)
28) --> Smoke Flash==> Acc(28)Acc(33)Rechg(37)Rechg(39)Rechg(39)
30) --> Hasten==> Rechg(30)Rechg(33)Rechg(42)
32) --> Golden Dragonfly==> Acc(32)Acc(33)Dmg(34)Dmg(34)Dmg(36)Rechg(43)
35) --> Stealth==> EndRdx(35)EndRdx(36)Rechg(42)
38) --> Kuji-In Retsu==> DefBuf(38)DefBuf(39)DefBuf(40)Rechg(40)Rechg(40)Rechg(42)
41) --> Hurdle==> Jump(41)
44) --> Moonbeam==> Acc(44)Dmg(45)Dmg(45)Dmg(45)IntRdx(46)
47) --> Soul Storm==> Acc(47)Dmg(48)Hold(48)Hold(48)Hold(50)
49) --> Invisibility==> EndRdx(49)EndRdx(50)Rechg(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Assassination==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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Its looking very good now, the only thing im worried about is the snipe. (its the thought of being stood there for a few secs becoming easy prey in Recluses Victory)


 

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[...] the only thing im worried about is the snipe. (its the thought of being stood there for a few secs becoming easy prey for another stalker in Warburg)

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How are you going to use that snipe in Warburg again?


 

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Indeed!


 

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looks good blizz
1 point tho .. i'd take off 2 slots from health and drop one on danger sense as that bugger sucks loads of end and drop the other either on the snipe as another ACC or on the PPP hold (don't need the dmg on there really).
Other than that its a good build.

oh i wouldn't worry about the snipe time either .. with the intx redux its not as long as it was before


Defiant's GoEH/MILITIS METUS

 

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Drop health, take hurdle, the slots from health stick tohitbuffs into build up.

Take acrobatics instead of health.

Drop smokeflash, take your self heal, slot it 3 heal 3 recharge.

Drop the end redux in hide, use it in places where your short (see above)

Drop the recharges from flashing steel and sting of wasp and use them as end redux in danger sense and ninja reflexes.

I'd also rearrange power order so that you have stealth in sirens call.

Any spare slots, slot your movement.


 

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Kuji-In Sha is a fantastic self heal. Charges fast with 3x RecRed and just beats a fully slotted Reconstruction. Personally I think it's the main reason to take Nin over SR. You need it


 

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Maybe it's just me sucking, or is the Nin/Nin stalker -really- sucky at low level?


 

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Maybe it's just me sucking, or is the Nin/Nin stalker -really- sucky at low level?

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Most Def sets are, I know I felt the pain on my EA Stalker and my SR Scrapper. Def really shines when you get multiple shields/SO's, nothing like beating on a mob and hardly being hit while your res based friend starts screaming for heals.


 

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Maybe it's just me sucking, or is the Nin/Nin stalker -really- sucky at low level?

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Most Def sets are, I know I felt the pain on my EA Stalker and my SR Scrapper. Def really shines when you get multiple shields/SO's, nothing like beating on a mob and hardly being hit while your res based friend starts screaming for heals.

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I'm talking damage-wise. I think my Brawl could do more damage than my special attacks. :|


 

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Maybe it's just me sucking, or is the Nin/Nin stalker -really- sucky at low level?

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Most Def sets are, I know I felt the pain on my EA Stalker and my SR Scrapper. Def really shines when you get multiple shields/SO's, nothing like beating on a mob and hardly being hit while your res based friend starts screaming for heals.

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I'm talking damage-wise. I think my Brawl could do more damage than my special attacks. :|

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I'd say it's just you. Yes, regular Stalker damage is fairly low, but slot your attacks for DMG and use plenty of attacks from hide (automatic critical hits y'know)... plus you can't claim Assassin's Strike is low DMG


 

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Maybe it's just me sucking, or is the Nin/Nin stalker -really- sucky at low level?

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Most Def sets are, I know I felt the pain on my EA Stalker and my SR Scrapper. Def really shines when you get multiple shields/SO's, nothing like beating on a mob and hardly being hit while your res based friend starts screaming for heals.

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I'm talking damage-wise. I think my Brawl could do more damage than my special attacks. :|

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I'd say it's just you. Yes, regular Stalker damage is fairly low, but slot your attacks for DMG and use plenty of attacks from hide (automatic critical hits y'know)... plus you can't claim Assassin's Strike is low DMG

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If used out of hide, sure you can... with its "below Brawl" damage .


 

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Maybe it's just me sucking, or is the Nin/Nin stalker -really- sucky at low level?

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Most Def sets are, I know I felt the pain on my EA Stalker and my SR Scrapper. Def really shines when you get multiple shields/SO's, nothing like beating on a mob and hardly being hit while your res based friend starts screaming for heals.

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I'm talking damage-wise. I think my Brawl could do more damage than my special attacks. :|

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I'd say it's just you. Yes, regular Stalker damage is fairly low, but slot your attacks for DMG and use plenty of attacks from hide (automatic critical hits y'know)... plus you can't claim Assassin's Strike is low DMG

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But then again, I shouldn't expect alot of damage. Level 7. xD


 

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Ahem. Double post. (Ninja bump.)

I noticed.. Nin/Nin is frickin' endurance heavy.


 

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Yeah its danger sense toggle, it has AoE and range defence, so is extra heavy on endurance.


 

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Yeah its danger sense toggle, it has AoE and range defence, so is extra heavy on endurance.

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Ah.. Explains why. Looks like I'm getting Stamina later.


 

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Ahem. Double post. (Ninja bump.)

I noticed.. Nin/Nin is frickin' endurance heavy.

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Please bear in mind that an investigation into endurance being extra high on many characters post I7.


 

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Since most of this thread was removed , including my revised build, here is my revised build again.


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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name: Moonlight Sonata
Level: 50
Archetype: Stalker
Primary: Ninja Blade
Secondary: Ninjitsu
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01) --> Sting of the Wasp==> Acc(1)Acc(7)Dmg(13)Dmg(21)Dmg(25)Rechg(29)
01) --> Hide==> EndRdx(1)DefBuf(3)DefBuf(3)DefBuf(9)
02) --> Ninja Reflexes==> EndRdx(2)EndRdx(5)DefBuf(5)DefBuf(9)DefBuf(13)
04) --> Flashing Steel==> Acc(4)Acc(7)Dmg(15)Dmg(23)Dmg(27)Rechg(31)
06) --> Assassin's Blade==> Acc(6)Acc(11)Dmg(11)Dmg(15)Dmg(21)Rechg(31)
08) --> Swift==> Run(8)
10) --> Build Up==> Rechg(10)Rechg(19)Rechg(19)
12) --> Placate==> Rechg(12)Rechg(17)Rechg(17)
14) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(14)
16) --> Super Jump==> Jump(16)
18) --> Health==> Heal(18)Heal(25)Heal(27)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(23)EndMod(29)
22) --> Danger Sense==> EndRdx(22)EndRdx(31)DefBuf(33)DefBuf(36)DefBuf(37)
24) --> Kuji-In Rin==> Rechg(24)Rechg(33)Rechg(33)
26) --> Soaring Dragon==> Acc(26)Acc(34)Dmg(37)Dmg(40)Dmg(43)
28) --> Kuji-In Sha==> Rechg(28)Rechg(36)Rechg(36)Heal(39)Heal(40)Heal(42)
30) --> Hasten==> Rechg(30)Rechg(34)Rechg(43)
32) --> Golden Dragonfly==> Empty(32)Acc(34)Dmg(37)Dmg(40)Dmg(43)
35) --> Stealth==> EndRdx(35)EndRdx(39)Rechg(39)
38) --> Kuji-In Retsu==> Rechg(38)Rechg(42)Rechg(45)DefBuf(45)DefBuf(46)DefBuf(46)
41) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(41)EndRdx(42)
44) --> Moonbeam==> Acc(44)Dmg(45)Dmg(46)Dmg(48)IntRdx(48)
47) --> Soul Storm==> Acc(47)Hold(48)Hold(50)Hold(50)
49) --> Invisibility==> EndRdx(49)EndRdx(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Assassination==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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Currently lvl24 and have yet to encounter a problem either in PvE or PvP.
Loving it