Hide + Stealth in PvE


Alvan

 

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Being strictly a PvE player I didn't intend to bother with Stealth, but since I've just had a, uhm, interesting few missions against the Rikti and their lovely drones I'm starting to wonder. Could I get some feedback on a few points:

1) How effective would it be? I'm not worried if I can't wander up and AS a drone, but would I be able to get noticably closer without being seen, maybe to sneak past?

2) How common is this problem anyway? Rikti Drones are my first run-in with +perc in PvE (at lvl 32). Are there going to a lot more such enemies, or even just a lot of Rikti missions, to come?

3) Can anyone tell me a good place to find Rikti at lvl 32 to test it on?


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Being strictly a PvE player I didn't intend to bother with Stealth, but since I've just had a, uhm, interesting few missions against the Rikti and their lovely drones I'm starting to wonder. Could I get some feedback on a few points:

1) How effective would it be? I'm not worried if I can't wander up and AS a drone, but would I be able to get noticably closer without being seen, maybe to sneak past?

2) How common is this problem anyway? Rikti Drones are my first run-in with +perc in PvE (at lvl 32). Are there going to a lot more such enemies, or even just a lot of Rikti missions, to come?

3) Can anyone tell me a good place to find Rikti at lvl 32 to test it on?

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k rikti drones will see you no matter what you do will hide/stealth.. they have stupidly high per so i wouldn't bother.
This will get worse with knives of artimus and other NPC's like that later on ingame.
Of top of my head the NPC's that can see you are
Rikti drones
Nemesis snipers (altho i do think stealth helps with those)
Knives of artimus
somebody said longbow do late in game but i've yet to see
any NPC with tactics .. get a bunch of them together and they will turn around and slap you.

The top 3 are the ones you'll see the most tho and i could of missed some off which i can't think of atm.


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Of top of my head the NPC's that can see you are
Rikti drones
Nemesis snipers (altho i do think stealth helps with those)
Knives of artimus
somebody said longbow do late in game but i've yet to see
any NPC with tactics .. get a bunch of them together and they will turn around and slap you.

The top 3 are the ones you'll see the most tho and i could of missed some off which i can't think of atm.

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Rikti Drones, Knives of Artemis, and the eyeball-type Rularuu can see through an Illusion controller's Superior Invisibility before she reaches melee range. (In the case of KoA, this gets painful; higher-ranking KoA NPCs carry the same stupidly long-duration stun grenades that certain Malta NPCs do.)

Nemesis snipers on the other hand are not quite good enough at seeing through stealth powers to spot an illusionist, even at point-blank, unless she does something to suppress her stealth. I'm not sure how SupInvis compares to Hide+Stealth, though.


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we can add malta to the list .. operation officers in malta can see through hide.
And supinvis is less powerfull than hide+stealth.


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sup invis and hide are almost the same I believe..

(stealth wise that is)


 

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Superior Invis is better than Hide, but the difference is that a Stalker can get a higher total Stealth value compared to a Non-Stalker. Double the value of a Non-Stalker, to be exact.

Also (and in this case this matters more) Hide + Stealth stack, which means they combined become more powerful than Superior Invisibility.


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Superior Invis is better than Hide,

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Thats right indeed..my bad


 

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Add to the list any ambushes that come along due to an event (click on book case or triggering an alarm in a mayhem mission).

Best defence I've found to these is not being hit, it doesn't matter if they can see you only if they hit you is hide broken so SR or Ninjitsu give a stalker a definite edge here. Its great to be able to AS someone who is looking right at you.