Mild quandary - Epic choice for a tauntbot!


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Hey all!

My Tanker, Stronghold, hit SL40 lately - so I've started to look at epic sets for him.

My concept was to make him pretty tough with a high amount of taunting going on - I like to be active in my taunting and not rely on PBAoE's to hit who I want them to hit.

Now, he's Inv/Fire. I've left off REn and REl so far, I know they'd mitigate some of my weakness to non-S/L damage, but the numbers don't impress me enough. Apart from that, I have all of my primary set, as well as Tough and Weave - I figure to get as much Def in there as poss has to be a good thing.

I've Challenge and Provoke, Hasten and the fitness pool - all of which helps grabbing more aggro. On top of this, I have Combustion and Fire Swoord Circle, hopefully to grab a bit of aggro via gauntlet.

It seems to work pretty well, I can't solo for toffee but frankly never expected to be able to. I am tough and my teams are usually fairly safe.

Now my problem - Earth or Arctic mastery?

From earth, I'd grab Stalagmites, Fossilise, and Salt Crystals - as much for a bit of AoE control as anything.

From arctic, I'd grab Block of Ice, Ice Blast, and Ice storm - Ice storm in particular looks very good, I'd slot it 2 slow, 3 recharge if I got it.

I'm pretty evenly split between the two - my only other option would be using the three slots for REn, REl and maybe Breath of Fire or GFS - but that seems a tad mundane, to me.

If anyone has experience with either ancillary, or anything at all to tell me, speak now or forever hold your peas


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I have the earth mastery set. I use Stone Prison and Fossilize from that. Stone prison is quite handy for keeping AV's in place whilst kiting them or for catching an Lt that's trying to run off. Fossilze is my fave tho. Can perma hold a sapper, take an Lt out the fight or when stacked, hold a boss or an AV.

Stalagmites just didn't do enough for me. Not much damage, the stun is minimal and I can use taunt for catching straying mobs. Salt crystals seemed a little pointless as mudpots would likely wake them all up anyway....


 

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Ice storm is particularly bad, its a sort of 'anti-taunt', that just makes enemies run away from under it. Short duration as well.

Ice blast is an ok for a ranged blast, single target.

Block of ice is one of my favorites, it helps a lot when fighting malta sappers for instace.

Ive seen some tanks like to take fire mastery for fireball, and then start the attack with it, cause it isnt affected by target limitation of taunt and grabs aggro nicely from neutral enemy. Maybe thats for you?

I dont know anything of earth mastery, sorry.


 

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I went for the full earth set, took them all 4. Holds for the annoying sappers or runaways, the immobilze for the AV's (stupid tactics ). Stalgmites i use to draw a nearby little group of mobs while i am busy a few yrds away. Damage isnt realy great, stun is pretty low but its a aoe around the mob, wich gives that tiny extra bit aoe-control. Finaly saltcrystals is my favorite. Though they nearly instant break free, the aoe-range is really big and has a pretty high accuracy (i went of acc/acc/rech/rech).

With all those from earth, you can create pretty cool chains of attacks to draw 99% of the group nearly instantly.


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Err....IMO the _only_ choice if you want to be a tauntbot it's Fire Epic.
Fireblast, char and fireball are the best thing you can hope for grabbin, keeping and consolidating aggro..
If someone runs, Fireblast.
If there's someone really boring, Char.
When you want all the attention for you, Fireball.

But between Earth and Arctic I'd pick Earth, no doubt.


 

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earth earth earth

i have stone prison, Fossilize and Stalgemites, all i need now is to respec Foot Stomp back into my build and i'll be totally done.. so to sum up, go earth if your choosing between artic and earth, else fire seems great for aggro.. also dont forget you can slot invinc for taunt


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Id agree with Jiaozy if you want to gather agro Prye mastery is the only way to go, Fire ball is gr8 way of grabbing it


 

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On my superstrength i have everything i need within the set so getting energy pool was fine for me and i wont change that. With my fire secondary tanker ill be taking the fire epic without question as it has tools i lack. You've given yourself 2 choices and out of them i would want to take the earth but i may have to go ice depending on how many epic powers i see myself being able to afford to take. Ice if i can only afford one slot for the hold and earth if i can afford to take 2 slots to get a hold atleast but i would want 3 as stalagmites would be nice.


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Cheers for the feedback chaps. Looks like Earth is the way forward - as much as Fire looks good, since I'm already /fire, I fancy something else for my Epic!

As I've got three power picks, I think I'll leave the immob out.

ps. Yup, know all about Invinci-taunt, have it 3 Def, 1 End, 2 Taunt!


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