The GG & Union RP Q&A Thread


Acenra

 

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So because some idiots have abused the system, you want to stop that branch completely by disallowing all use of it (no matter how IC it is); in effect, nerfing it?

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I don't think anyone has said they want to disallow emoticons, Silver; only that they personally don't like them and prefer that people don't use them.

There's no emoticon-police jackbooting around GG, pouncing on perpetrators and dragging them off to 1337 gulags.


 

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Perhaps, but I do think it's indicative of some RP'ers that things turn elitest at times; and as this thread's already shown, it's rather frightening for new players to be met by this wall of "rules".

If people don't want to interact with those of us that use differing ways of RP'ing, that's fine; but blanket condemnations and jokes about using punctuation in real speech are sometimes just as off-putting as the Assassin Strikes in PvP.

With the hundreds of tools you turn away, there may be a few good players that would have been great people to RP with; that's my concern.


 

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So because some idiots have abused the system, you want to stop that branch completely by disallowing all use of it (no matter how IC it is); in effect, nerfing it?

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Firstly, it's not a system that a lot of us are familiar with. I'm sure there are many roleplayers who use the /em command to actually portray thought bubbles, but we don't. This is bound to create confusion. I think, as an IC tool, smileys are confusing at best, irritating at worst. There are too many different ways to interpret them on their own.

I should also point out that, to my knowlegde, this is the first time the use of smileys in roleplay has become an issue of debate. Most people don't seem to mind leaving them out and using words instead. I'll ask again, is it really so difficult to type /em winks instead of in order to make sure you're understood?

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Perhaps, but I do think it's indicative of some RP'ers that things turn elitest at times; and as this thread's already shown, it's rather frightening for new players to be met by this wall of "rules".


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Actually, so far, the "rules" of GG, are play nice, keep IC and OOC seperate, have fun, and we'd prefer if you didn't use smileys and leet. Hardly a "wall." I've seen much more strict guidelines. Indeed, preferring that dialogue be kept to real words is hardly elitist.

I mean, if we're at the stage where it's considered elitist to ask that people speak in an actual language, I'm very afraid.

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If people don't want to interact with those of us that use differing ways of RP'ing, that's fine; but blanket condemnations and jokes about using punctuation in real speech are sometimes just as off-putting as the Assassin Strikes in PvP.

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Opinions were offered, requests made. Nothing more. The closest we saw on this thread to what you describe was Ravenswing saying he'd ignore characters who spoke in smileys, which you yourself view as perfectly acceptable. Jokes are made in good humour, if offence is taken, apologies are made. This is how society works. People shouldn't have to walk on eggshells.

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With the hundreds of tools you turn away, there may be a few good players that would have been great people to RP with; that's my concern.

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If I for one moment thought there were "hundreds" of people interested in GG, I'd be thrilled.

For the record, I've never asked people to leave GG, for any reason. I've never ignored someone for how they roleplay unless they're godmoding, making an attempt to spoil others' enjoyment of the game, and have ignored requests to stop. I feel certain that many other GG attendees are the same.


 

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If you guys are worried about emoticons, why not use A/Ns?

E.G. "Are you sure this is going to work?" Jimmy asked, a hint of concern in his voice (A/N: told ya he was a wimp )

That's the more common system to add in your own comentary and opinions, just add a pair of brackets and people will know what's what.


 

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Hmmm.. well I guess I have to thank you folks for putting my mind at rest. Having been typing LOL, ROFL and using emoticons for over a year now they have become somewhat a habit which I doubt I could drop so easily in a minute of RP. I'll try my luck though and hopefully I can get better!

Oh, and whats Godmoding? Never heard that before!

And one last thing.. l H8 1337 $p33& 2


 

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If you guys are worried about emoticons, why not use A/Ns?

E.G. "Are you sure this is going to work?" Jimmy asked, a hint of concern in his voice (A/N: told ya he was a wimp )

That's the more common system to add in your own comentary and opinions, just add a pair of brackets and people will know what's what.

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Common system? I don't even know what an "A/N" is.


 

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If you guys are worried about emoticons, why not use A/Ns?

E.G. "Are you sure this is going to work?" Jimmy asked, a hint of concern in his voice (A/N: told ya he was a wimp )

That's the more common system to add in your own comentary and opinions, just add a pair of brackets and people will know what's what.

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Common system? I don't even know what an "A/N" is.

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Sorry, I do alot of fiction on other sites. An A/N is an Author's Note. it allows the author to drop in footnotes and other info wherever possible.


 

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Godmoding is doing something to someone else's character that doesn't give them any say in what happens.

e.g. "X punches Y in the face, breaking his nose."
or "X grabs Y in an unbreakable head-lock."

And so forth.


 

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people only really pick up on typos that are funny.

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Like "I guess we leave it in the nads of God.", with nads a typo of hands.

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Just the other day I made a really bad typo on the Open RP thread, saying something like

"He layed a hand gently on his soldier" when i meant to say shoulder.

And I was too late to edit it when i noticed it.


 

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Sorry, I do alot of fiction on other sites. An A/N is an Author's Note. it allows the author to drop in footnotes and other info wherever possible.

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I'd never heard of an A/N either, and I've written fiction on other sites. Hey ho, just illustrates what's at the bottom of the post.

The most common system used for similar notes in online RP is OOC bracketing, usually using double parenthses...

Hello to all *bows grandiously* (( And hi folks, been a while. ))

Note the use of emote bracketing, using asterisks to mark an action rather than speech.

Main problem is, everywhere does it a little different. In open RP environments like GG, it's difficult to get a general opinion on how things should be done because everyone comes with their own preconseptions.


Disclaimer: The above may be humerous, or at least may be an attempt at humour. Try reading it that way.
Posts are OOC unless noted to be IC, or in an IC thread.

 

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good point well made


 

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Main problem is, everywhere does it a little different. In open RP environments like GG, it's difficult to get a general opinion on how things should be done because everyone comes with their own preconseptions.

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'What's the good of Mercator's North Poles and Equators,
Tropics, Zones, and Meridian Lines?"
So the Bellman would cry: and the crew would reply
"They are merely conventional signs!"

-- The Hunting of the Snark, Lewis Carrol


 

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Main problem is, everywhere does it a little different. In open RP environments like GG, it's difficult to get a general opinion on how things should be done because everyone comes with their own preconseptions.

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All text-based games have rules, and I was actually quite surprised when I saw GG seemed to be free-for-all, anything-goes roleplaying. I realise it's difficult for any of the regulars to provide guidelines as Cryptic/NCSoft won't recognise you or them, so they'd be close to impossible to "police".

Still, as more people join the game, certainly more are going to try out GG and after a while things could get confusing; especially if every other person uses a different play style.

For instance, Weasel likes to use smilies and the rest of us (myself included, eek!) don't really think they fit into RPing. The use of them doesn't make one a bad RPer, just an AU-esque one.


 

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Weasel's speech IS horribly distorted though. Ignoring the smilies or mild annoyance is probably in character for people talking to him for the first time. Similar could be said for '+++' for Robot characters, which is the sound of vocal circuits coming online.

One man's meat is another's poison, YMMV and some other spurious cliche