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Ninja Blade works best with the parry ability stacking with a defense based set. If you have regen as your secondary you are a bit of a gimp I'm afraid.
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level 26 and 32 you get knockup and a knockdown power, which does nasty damage, that should make it more worthwhile in PvP, and Divine Avalanche OWNS on a stalker.
tell me praf why are you a gimp if you have regen as your secondary in pvp??
my regen stalker does fairly well in pvp, if i get into a tight spot i just bang on instant healing or dull pain or reconstruction. to me having 3 panic buttons in a tough fight is a good advantage.
Because you can be easily one-shotted by a blaster?
Because you have no defense against pbaoe toggles?
Because in a 1 on 1 a regen scrapper will both out regen and out damage you?
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i cant say myself or my 2 other stalker m8s from my sg have ever been 1 shotted by a blaster before, infact im normally the one who is 1 shot as'ing them.
Unless you have a regen stalker mate and if you havent played one for a long time like me you cant really have a go at the power set now can if im being honest.
I have a regen stalker. I use him mostly in PvE. I have been one-shotted by blasters quite often in PvP.
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well what level is he and what kind of build are you running on him?? as long as you be sneaky and attack when they arent expecting it you should be ok. the tactic of build up, a/s, placate and golden dragon fly normally takes down blasters for me. Are you on defiant or union?
Being sneeky and attacking when its unexpected is something every stalker can do. Its the other stuff that NB/Regen can't do (and they are not even as good at being sneeky, since they have lower aoe defence, making stealth easier to suppress with aoe powers).
And have you noticed Blasters have started taking tactics?
For PvE Regen is at least as good as the other others (until issue 7, which will make SR significantly better against AVs).
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i have noticed that but i can still hold my own one on one thanks to instant healing and dull pain. i have managed to go one on one with a ma / regen scrapper and various other at's.
you are going on like regen is a poor power pool in pvp when it isnt, you just have to know how to play it.
What about the one shotting though? You are just walking hidden through SC when out of the Blue some Blaster with tactics hits Build Up, Aim, Sniper and you are dead without any chance to regen. At least with SR, Ninja or Energy the Blaster is less likely to hit you.
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i have noticed that but i can still hold my own one on one thanks to instant healing and dull pain. i have managed to go one on one with a ma / regen scrapper and various other at's.
you are going on like regen is a poor power pool in pvp when it isnt, you just have to know how to play it.
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Regen power pool in PvP is weak.
Strongest PvP power pools are SR and Ninjitsu with Ninjitsu having a high advantage due to the good resist to fear.
Fear is a major issue for stalker since the current PvP situation calls for teleport usage to avoid getting cornered and escaping anti-stalkerish pvp tactics. Fear powers queued on stalkers prevent the tp exit enough to drop toggles and placing holds on stalkers. Ninjitsu resists this kind of tactics and makes tp Nin stalkers more effective than any other set during PvP inside the zones.
As for the regen. They are the easiest set to kill. Toggle drop them and toggle drop them or fear and toggle drop and thats the end within 3 sec. Your panic buttons in this situation are more than worthless.
As for toe to toe situation is kinda pointless to discuss it as in PvP zones there is no toe to toe. You wont face a single person in duel but tactical organised teams that want to rip you apart.
Regen is the weakest set in PvP for stalkers and thats a fact.
a note on the one shotting. U obviously havent come across the latest trend of */dev blasters that drop their health to 1 and then with stealth and cloak device tactics and drone 1 shot the stalkers in PvP zone. You can try it i assure u its no fun.
tell you what then tainted take me when you see me in pvp on union you take me on and you will see how rubbish regen is. you are entitled to your own opinions and views but unless you have played in pvp for a good few months like i have with my ninja then you cant comment. at the end of the day a good player can get the best out of their powers. i have come across plenty of blasters in pvp and they have been easy targets.
I think thats just it. You where playing a Regen Stalker just after CoV was released, when the heroes had no idea how to counter OMG Stalkers!!!!
Now, they have learned.
There are increasing numbers of Blasters in PvP zones with Stalker killer builds and tactics.
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i still play pvp with my stalker today in warburg and sirens and i am able to deal with blasters, as i said a good player can get the best out of their powers.
i think you need to stop having a go at regen to be honest as calling us gimps isnt cool.
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a note on the one shotting. U obviously havent come across the latest trend of */dev blasters that drop their health to 1 and then with stealth and cloak device tactics and drone 1 shot the stalkers in PvP zone. You can try it i assure u its no fun.
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I said it was a bit of a gimp, not a total gimp.
Player skill is certainly an important factor, but take that away and you are left with SR as by far the strongest Stalker set for PvP, and Regen the weakest.
Combine that with Ninja Blade, which you havn't even tried to suggest isn't the weakest PvP choice, and you are left with a character that is significantly weaker than others with the same AT.
Sure, play it, but for the added challenge.
I play TA and Ice Armour FGS.
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well that is your opinion that its the weakest set but i know from playing my stalker alot in pvp lately he can hold his own if i am unable to use my a/s and placate tactics.
You are still having a pop at the power set mate which is uncool.
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i think you need to stop having a go at regen to be honest as calling us gimps isnt cool.
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No..let them call us Gimped. It decreases the chance thatwe'll be Nerfed a 6th time in a row. As a matter of fact, do everything you can to spread the rumour.
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well that is your opinion that its the weakest set but i know from playing my stalker alot in pvp lately he can hold his own if i am unable to use my a/s and placate tactics.
You are still having a pop at the power set mate which is uncool.
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Ah, well that is what regen can do, but a Stalker who has to resort to scrapping is already in a weakened position.
Basically, the weakness of regen is because it was designed as a scrapper set. Regen rate is based off maximum hp, wich is considerably lower for a Stalker than for a Scrapper, thus the stalker regenerates significantly fewer hp/s than a scrapper. This is compared to a defense set, which gives the same value (actually stalker gets more because of hide). If you are not hit it doesn't matter if you have fewer hp. Defence based sets are also better for status protection, and click status protection cannot be detoggled.
However my intention was to warn new stalkers that NB/regen could be a tough choice, not "have a go" at existing brave regen stalkers. Granted gimp is an emotive word, and used in the context of hyperbole. Would you prefer "NB/Regen may not be your strongest combination of powers for PvP"?
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good thinking batman!
just dont like people trying to force their opinions on others and potentially putting players off making regen stalkers by saying they are rubbish. at least we havent had the nerf bat all over us like ice tanks lol
Well, in a sense Regen Stalkers have already been heavly clobbered with the nerf bat, since they suffer from all the nerfs inherited from regen scrappers.
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they would still wipe the floor with a dom thanks to the little gem of integration. just stop having a go at regen m8, there is no need for it. if you can say you have spent alot of time in pvp with a regen stalker then fair enough but if not you cant really make judgements.
I have PvPed with a regen stalker, but there is really no need, its all there in the numbers, but I really don't see why you are so defensive about it. If you PvP successfully with a Regen Stalker it must be down to skill. Surely its better to be a skilled player than have the strongest build?
One of the reasons people come to the forums is to get advice on builds. Do you think we should all go "shush, don't tell anyone regen is weaker than SR in PvP, it's a secret"?
And Intergration is no good if you get detoggled, and it doesn't defend against stun or slow. I don't think it gives you +perception either, but I could be wrong about the last.
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I have a dream that they would put an immobilize or stun effect on the ninja blade set, or even just a throw the sword at the heart of the enemy attack, cuz frankly i cant make it work in pvp with my lvl 23