Nin Vs. Regen


Chelsea

 

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I was just wondering if the tools in the nin defense set can match up to regen? stuff like blinding powder, smoke flash, caltropes and Kuji-in Retsu. seems to me like Kuji-in Rin is much like Resilience, and Kuji-in Sha i much like Reconstruction. But i want to know if blinding powder and smoke flash is like a placate ? or how does they work. Also Kuji-in Retsu, it says it will give you great defense for some time then strip you for energy and leave you for dead :P is it worth it ?


 

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oohh and is the defense really high enough if you dont got ninja blade (divine avalance)


 

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I was just wondering if the tools in the nin defense set can match up to regen? stuff like blinding powder, smoke flash, caltropes and Kuji-in Retsu. seems to me like Kuji-in Rin is much like Resilience, and Kuji-in Sha i much like Reconstruction. But i want to know if blinding powder and smoke flash is like a placate ? or how does they work. Also Kuji-in Retsu, it says it will give you great defense for some time then strip you for energy and leave you for dead :P is it worth it ?

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I really like /ninja its a good all rounder
to answer your questions.
smoke flash is a pbaoe placate (altho it dosn't hide you)
blinding powder is (cone) confuse/blind with -ACC
kuji-in retsu is your lvl 38 power and much like elude in SR (Defence) and has the end downer after 2 mins.well worth it.
kuji-in Rin is you anti mez power and is a clicky not a toggle resist disorient.hold,immob,sleep,confuse,fear and has res v psi.
kuji-in sha is your healing power and a must have.
caltrops is one of those powers that you wouldn't miss if you didn't have it . you can drop them hidden but as soon as they do damage you get unhidden.

oh defence .. with hide (1 def SO) Ninja reflex (3 def So's) and ninja senses (3 def So's) you looking at around 28% Def all round (melee/ranged/AoE)


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thx a lot. nice for you to point em out like that ^^


 

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my pleasure


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Worth noting that /regen is a bit of a weak set for a Stalker. Your regeneration powers work on a percentage of your max hit points, and that is lower than a /regen Scrapper of the same level. As a result, /regen Stalkers tend to have less survivability than /regen Scrappers.

Also of note, come I7, you should be seeing /nin and /sr being more effective as the defense scaling adjustments come into play. This will make /regen even weaker compared to the defense-based secondaries.


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It's all well saying how it is on paper, but the fact is that regen Stalkers are pretty hardy. Fair enough they don't have the same almost invincible regen rate that Scrappers do but what they do have can make them tough to kill.


 

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W/regen Stalkers tend to have less survivability than /regen Scrappers.



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plz dont compare stalkers with scrappers? everyone is doing it, and they arnt the same AT! a SR scrapper is also "harder" than a SR stalker but that doesnt make the SR defense bad does it? plz just dont! compare these two different AT :P


 

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regen all the way peeps, my mate and i have lvl 40 regen stalkers and it rocks. you get 3 great panic buttons for tight spots with instant healing, reconstruction and dull pain. slot them with 3x heals and 3x recharge and your laughing!


 

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Is all up to your play style.

Olle I think the comparison between stalker and scrapper was just illustrating how regen worked rather than likening the two AT's.


 

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Regen DEFINATELY. Ninjitsu doesn't stand a chance. SR is even better than ninjitsu.

carl


 

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regen all the way peeps, my mate and i have lvl 40 regen stalkers and it rocks. you get 3 great panic buttons for tight spots with instant healing, reconstruction and dull pain. slot them with 3x heals and 3x recharge and your laughing!

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I would agree awesome those 3 powers great in PvP also if you have them all there


 

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Is all up to your play style.


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Yep I am EA and only have one power from the secondary (entropy) apart from hide and I do just fine I dont think many people take a secondary just for one power but its my pvp alt


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Best stalker i've seen at the start of CoV and still is to date is the best out there, was spines/regen, he was really annoying to fight because he had an assortment of heals aswell as instant healing. That was PvP. In PvE i think defences make a huge difference to my game, so prolly ninjitsu is better as it has high defences. A regen stalker is more frustrating to take down than a ninjitsu stalker. EM/regen seems to a popular Scrappery style stalker build.


 

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Well, I personally hate Ninjitsu for a number of reasons. When CoV was first released, Ninjitsu had a type of 'coolness' factor to it, as it was different to anything else, and above all, was called Ninjitsu . However, after PvPing against some SG Stalkers (Our Hero SG has an alternate Villain one, like most) who were both regen, I was persuaded that regen was simply fantastic, even without the End regen buff. You don't need defence when you're regen. The other reason I hate Ninjitsu, is because, although it may suck in other situations, it is one of the only things I have come across (defo in Stalkers) that can actually kill my Storm/Dark Defender. That is of course if I'm not allowed to run. Hurricane + Steamy mist normally stops anything from getting near me, and anything that does get near me (eg Granite Stone users) will NEVER hit me. Unfortunately for me, if the Stalker manages to stay back enough and remain hidden, they can whack me with the Sleep/Blind Powder thing (not sure of the terminology) which turns off all my toggles. But the effect is pretty useless, and I'm normally able to TP a good 200yds away before they manage to attack me.