Im miffed with the buff/debuffs in zones atm but i dont moan about odds, I often stay in when no one else is there just to give heroes something to do and give them bounty/pvp points. If one side is battering the other though i do swap to my alt and help out the underdogs.
Warburg sucks imo as its supposed to be a free for all zone but I dont see it that way, if it was free for all you should be able to team with heros/villains which you cant anymore, its too dark for a decent arena, Sirens call (hero half) is easily the best as its nice and bright the programers think ruins are cool but all it does is make it easy to get trapped/stuck and NPCd
Hmm it seems that I am whining about pvp 
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i was actually quite intimidated by the thought of it before it came out but now i cant see the problem unless you like to go afk in the middle of a pvp zone but i can understand some people wishing to avoid being tp'd here and there and then to hospital if all they wanted to do was get to a mission but i havent really had that yet.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
Also, there is Whining, and there is Taunting the Enemy. They can seem similar, but they have their characteristics.
And there is whining, and offering criticism 
The ability to team up with villains would rock, and now stalk has said it cannot happen guess Im never going to warburg
The only real problem I have with sirens is..... no inspirations.. cant they stick some one there to sell them?
(I dont count the temp powers as worth anything...I can tp allready, I can fly allready.. If Im getting hit then no amount of ice armour will save me..and goggles are just rubbish)
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Slaps naughty Botty.
Had a good time in Sirens last night anyway, had fun trying to kill Razgul, albeit i might have been just a tad tipsy 
. Happy new year all
My whine about PvP is this... Whenever I go to Sirens (Warburg and BB don't do it for me), I end up staying there for far too long! 
It ended up being much more fun than I expected, having opponents like Botty helps, perfect attitude. *Tips hat*
Man I feel like crapola today! Far too late a night last night... HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL!!!
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They should stick an inspirations "machine" there but allow you to only take one type of inspiration within a certain amount of time. I say this because if it was just like contacts then people would be refilling themselves with yellow's every minute and stalkers.....well.
On topic, it depends what there whining about. Yesterday evening i was told that the Villains had been debuffed to hell in Damage and Resistance, now that isn't fair by any standards and wouldn't call that a whine.
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Not fair? That's the point of the missions, to debuff the enemy. Instead of moaning about it, why did they not just do some missions?
As -obot has said in another thread, the missions are mostly done by people who have no interest in PvP and are there only to farm the missions. They have a direct effect on PvP, so yes i agree that its a bit unfair.
P.S. I have noting against people doing the missions in the zones, it's the fault of the devs for letting the missions affect PvP.
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Not fair? That's the point of the missions, to debuff the enemy. Instead of moaning about it, why did they not just do some missions?
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My point is this, why should people who come to exploit the increased XP and drop value of the missions in the PVP zones have the ability to fundamentally alter the playing dynamics of people who go to the PVP zones to actually PVP? Im not talking about someone who PVPs making a slight shift, (Im talking about people who come in and we all see their names on the bounty target for about 5 seconds while thye jump from mission to mission without ever doing any PVP and cry if anyone attacks them on their way to a mission). I personally go to the PVP zones to play against people and have a good time with the great people there, I dont want to ahve to spend ages doing missions (on either side) to try an equalise the playing feild, thats what the rest of the game is for (doing missions)
I would welcome debuffing missions in the PVP zones if they were there JUST to shift the dynamics and didnt give XP, then they would be used just by the PVPers and not people who dont PVP. Or they should just have the bonus of the increased XP, to ahve the both increased XP and pvp altering capabilities is not a good idea IMO as it leads to PVPers being influenced by outside events from farmers
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Easy fix, find a farmer from the villain side
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yesterday was the villains who were debuffed, tomorrow it could be the heroes, I just find it distasteful that people (all sides) can get (more) unwelcome nerfs by people who dont interact in the way the zones were created for. Seems my personal bugbear ATM, I work hard to make Sirens (Defiant) equal by swapping sides and cajoling people to bolster the underdogs, farmers are just making it nigh on impossible to get a real balance now 
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I am a slow leveler, so I can only get into BB for the time being (should change within a few days tho). So my only grioe about PvP would be that there are not enough people in BB. It is usually quite hard to find villains to fight.
I often ask people I team with to come to BB, maybe just to do missions and mobs, and some PvP if we find some villains to fight. A lot say that they don't like Pvp and dont want to do it et cetera, and then I have to explain the whole mechanic of not getting debt and stuff. Often, they decide to give it a go after all, and so far everyone who have tried it seems to love the experience. Perhaps because there is very little ganking in this game; nice and balanced that way.
So - there is a lot of misinformation and prejudice about PvP in this game. but I think it is very well done, extremely enjoyable.
However, I wish there would be more PvP events of some sort, to get more peeps into the PvP areas. If only to do street missions with the risk of meeing some hostile players along the way, for the added thrill of it!
So - more pvp would be good! And some ways to focus the pvp minded players more, right now I don't even know where to go for the battles, I just roam BB looking for trouble, mostly around the fire bases, but that is a pretty dangerous area due to the chance of accidental pve death and debt (from the artillery towers).
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its too dark for a decent arena
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Probably because it isn't an arena.
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its too dark for a decent arena
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Probably because it isn't an arena.
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lets not get anal or try to play technical, any area of conflict can be described as an arena
Arena - "A place or scene where forces contend or events unfold"
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But you had a specific meaning in mind, yes? You want it to be a combat arena. Sometimes you don't get to pick where you have your battles. I'm sure every military commander in the world would love to be able to select his battleground for his best effect, but they can't.
That siad, I don't find Warburg particularly bad, at least for navigation to PvP missions. And all the little alleys make it easier to hide from PvPers.
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I've no need to whine about PvP, because most of the time I go into one of the zones for the bonus XP, they're deserted
i really cant understand why people whine about pvp i think its cool hell im fairly new to the pvp scene but hell its pretty fun in my books sure sometimes im outnumbered but i get get on with it ive noticed most the pvp zones are empty lately and the non-use of warburg is saddening on defiant but hey im sure it will get better