Who likes Revive, hands up!


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I took Revive for concept but ended up liking it a lot, despite all the bashing it gets.

If you're not against self-rezzes of any kind, Revive is pretty good. You resurrect with no disorient, 50% of your endurance and about 75% of your health (not sure of the exact amount but it's around there). Turn Integration back on and you're back in battle. It can be slotted for endurance recovery, heal and recharge, but I wouldn't bother unless there's nothing else to spend the slots on.

And it's great for concept. I love being that scrapper who just won't die. I love imagining how annoyed the mobs must be


 

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Jason is getting it, but it is concept for him and I think the plan says he gets it sometime up in the 40s... which probably means he never will since I'll have left the game by then. Never know, might get lucky.


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Consider the scene; Arnie has just utter the immortal words "Asta la vista, baby" and blow the T1000 to smithereens.
He watches with rising concern, or whatever the digital equivalent is as the shards of metal melt in the heat of the blast furnace and begin to reform.
"Bugger,' says Arnie, "I was sure he only had Moment of Glory."

Full rack of lvl45 enhancements; 3.8 million
New outfit; 542,000
Look on the AVs face when you get up immediately after faceplanting; Priceless

I Love Revive Not, you understand, that I use it much


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Soul Transfer owns Revive. What could be better than a self rez aoe disorient aggro magnet.


 

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Or Rise of Phoenix!

It seems a bit off that other powersets get better self-rez than Regen, but I'll take what I can get


 

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I'll take it just because I never seem to carry awakens...


 

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i have revive and i thin kits good, IMO MOG is worst pwoer in regen set, it kinda goes against the entire point of regen, i love being able to rez and finish off my enemies while teyre stil lwondering y the dead guy is still fighting. gives me mroe room for other insps to


 

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MoG keeps you alive while Revive gets you up after you die (And after debt...), Revive is just an awaken for a Regen anyway thanks to Resilience. It's a no brainer.


World of Jackcraft.

 

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MoG keeps you alive while Revive gets you up after you die (And after debt...), Revive is just an awaken for a Regen anyway thanks to Resilience. It's a no brainer.

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It's a bit more than an awaken - back on your feet and in the fight within seconds, but the point someone else raised is valid. What has MoG got to do with regen? Personally I don't see any relationship which is why I won't go near it.


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back on your feet and in the fight within seconds

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...which is just what an awaken does.

It's pretty stupid not taking a useful power like MoG just because it doesn't 'fit' with the theme of the rest of the set - besides, you could say that you regen so fast you don't notice the effect of most attacks landing on you...


 

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Some people like to base their power selections at least partly based on concept. Not everyone is a power gamer but it hardly makes them stupid.

And as far as I know, even the 3rd tier Awaken gives you NO endurance, which is hardly back on your feet and in the fight within seconds unless you happen to be carrying a few blues as well. And tier 3 Awakens can't even be bought anywhere that I know of.

As for MoG, some people really dislike it for a number of reasons. There are entire threads of MoG-hate on US forums. I don't have an opinion either way, I haven't picked it up yet but I intend to give it a try, because it seems potentially useful in case I have to tank non-psi AVs.


 

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...which is just what an awaken does.

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I don't know what game you're talking about, but awakens aren't that good in CoH.

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It's pretty stupid not taking a useful power like MoG just because it doesn't 'fit' with the theme of the rest of the set - besides, you could say that you regen so fast you don't notice the effect of most attacks landing on you...

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Nothing stupid about it. My toon is a REGEN scrapper, REGENERATION is the concept that I've built him around. MoG has nothing to do with regen, in fact, apart from End it STOPS all regen, even after MoG end there's a lag before regen starts again.
MoG is an invulnerability power, NOT a regen one. If you like, fine, but your best refraining from calling ppl who don't like it "stupid" - it makes you look like an idiot.


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You know I do have revive and yet I always forgwet to use it. In fact I forgot I had it though it too fits with my concept of never die. I do like it I have to say.

As for saying not taking Mog is stupid because it doesnt fit with a concept is the stupid thing to say Im sorry if I cause offence by that but I call it as I see it. I think you willl find MoG is the contested power of regen and I hardly use it too. Its a wildcard and needs to be slotted well to be any use. In fact I often forget I have that too from the habit of rarely using it.

I either need to use it more effectively or get rid in truth. Simply remember to hit DP before MoG and slot it nicely in my respec is a nice way to use it. But it does have little to do with regen.


 

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Think of it this way - You're concentrating you Regen powers into locking your Regen from moving up or down.


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Yeah I suppose. Actually I always had it down as a mind over matter thing. Still it is a black pea in the pod.


 

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...which is just what an awaken does.

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I don't know what game you're talking about, but awakens aren't that good in CoH.

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You must be playing a different game to me then.


 

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...which is just what an awaken does.

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I don't know what game you're talking about, but awakens aren't that good in CoH.

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You must be playing a different game to me then.

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So they do restore your endurance?


 

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I don't know what game you're talking about, but awakens aren't that good in CoH.

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You must be playing a different game to me then.

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Evidently. The awkans I'm used to don't restore your endurance.


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Quick recovery and Stamina do it quite sharply though...

I've never been in a position where I've needed to res what an Awaken can't give me, as a Regen.

But I did nearly solo the Crystal Titan with MoG! The others had to jump in or else I'd have done it.


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Quick recovery and Stamina do it quite sharply though...

I've never been in a position where I've needed to res what an Awaken can't give me, as a Regen.

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But not THAT sharply. Certainly not after ED. Prior to the universal nerf I might have agreed with you, I generated End faster than I could spend it - not any more.
Doesn't matter, Revive is better than an awaken, how much better is obviously up for debate.
Nevertheless, I stick by my sentiment, MoG is not a regen power and therefor refuse to touch. That does not suggest, for a second, that I condemn anyone else for taking it.
The whole point of the game is personal preference.

But I'll finish with the concept behind my toon. Many years ago I used to play AD&amp;D and I had a character who was such a scrapper you wouldn't believe - even had a Katana.
He also had a "ring of regeneration". Anyone who knows the game should know the magical item in question. It would bring you back from the dead providing it was still on your finger.
With that, my favourite character, in my past. How could I not take revive?


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